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Pay staff their tips, business secretary tells restaurants
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Pay staff their tips, business secretary tells restaurant chains | Life and style | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... y-to-staffBloody right. I don't personally agree with tipping since the staff should be paid properly to start with (and it's a bit of a peer pressure thing), but those who do give money to the staff have every right to expect it actually goes to them.
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Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:18 pm |
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rustybucket
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Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:10 pm Posts: 5836
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I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there [/Lumbergh]
I personally find the levels of service in the UK to be apocalyptic. I don't like the idea of needing tips in order to be able to survive but tips are a form of performance-related pay - an idea with which I very much agree. The problem is not so much that tipping is a thing but rather that most Britons I know simply do not feel comfortable refusing to tip. Consequently, many friends of mine leave a tip when the quality of service definitely did not warrant it.
We have the same problem at work. I have consistently received party rises and bonuses because I deliver good service both to the customers and to the company. Others are frankly slackers and are hurt or offended when their pay barely changes.
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Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:17 pm |
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jonlumb
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:44 pm Posts: 4141 Location: Exeter
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I'm with Jim on this, I consider that bringing food to the table is a basic part of what a restaurant does, and what I am paying for in the list price for a meal. Bog standard service isn't going to get a tip from me. The flip side is that when people do provide exceptional service, I tend to tip very heavily, and wherever possible in cash to the person responsible.
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Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:46 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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I'm not disagreeing with anyone, I just think the 'system' doesn't really work at all since most will tip short of their food being spat in. Restaurants pocketing the money isn't on either way though.
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Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:52 pm |
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AlunD
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am Posts: 7011 Location: Wiltshire
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A very simple solution is if you have had service to a level you wish to say thank you for tip the member of staff directly in cash. That way you know they get it ALL. 
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:21 am |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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One of the things that annoys me about tipping is those in the kitchen are never guaranteed to see money, and they're doing the bulk of the work. Going to a restaurant is expensive enough without creating issues by tipping the staff IMO - arguments about the tip, feeling obliged to tip, the staff expecting a tip, who's keeping the money... I think it all causes needless hassle when the staff should be paid properly initially. If a customer gives a tip, maybe throw it all into a tin for whatever decision later.
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:34 am |
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Zippy
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:20 pm Posts: 3838 Location: Here Abouts
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When I worked in a restaurant, all the tips went into a jar and were divided equally amongst all the serving and kitchen staff at the end of the shift. I think that's the fairest way. Even now I will refuse to add service to a card payment and then pay in cash what I think the service is worth.
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:56 am |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Restaurants’ tipping policy ‘forces waiters to pay to work’ | Life and style | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... ay-to-workThat's some gangster sh1t right there lol, are these places being run by people the Tories had to turn away or something?
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:22 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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What the [LIFTED]? I mean, REALLY, what the actual [LIFTED]?
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:19 pm |
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l3v1ck
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I'd always assumed staff were allowed to keep all their tips.
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Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:45 pm |
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