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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Toronto police report two suicides associated with Ashley Madison hack | World news | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/a ... dison-hack
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timark_uk
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm Posts: 12143 Location: Belfast
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Would that constitute manslaughter?
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:49 pm |
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pcernie
Legend
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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It'd be a hell of a case if a country went for it. National and international law, potentially ECHR, maybe even the UN... Even with suicide I find it really hard to sympathise with the people who genuinely signed up and used these sites 
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:03 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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Manslaughter? hardly. Peoples' distress is being caused as much by their own action - signing up for a website that exists expressly to facilitate adultery - as it is by those actions being revealed. The hackers have committed crimes, but there' s no way you'd get a manslaughter charge to stick.
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:11 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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It is their own fault for signing up, although why that would cause them to commit suicide is a bit of a stretch to me... Especially as the emails were not verified, so anybody with any sense would have signed up with a bogus email address or the address of somebody else...
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:29 am |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
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I suspect it's not just the email address that's being revealed - if people have paid a subscription they'll have had to give credit card info which usually includes an address and which can't just be any old stuff, it has to verify the card. So depending on exactly what data the company kept (and I'm not optimistic about their data removal policy being good) people could well be identifiable with some level of certainty.
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:32 am |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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They put just about every detail online, and then IIRC someone made it really easy to search.
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:16 am |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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While I struggle to muster any sympathy for people outed to their spouses, it seems much is being made about the hackers and little is being said about the company's failure to protect their customers' data.
Is being hacked being treated as an act of god now? Oh, it's terrible, but there's nothing to be done?
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:57 am |
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davrosG5
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 am Posts: 6954 Location: Peebo
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I suspect there is a lot of investigation going on. IIRC it sounded like the hack was an inside job which is vastly more difficult to protect against of course but that obviously doesn't mean companies don't have a duty to try.
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:04 am |
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Spreadie
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:06 pm Posts: 6355 Location: IoW
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I thought that had been ruled out, hence the large reward being offered? I may have dreamt that... I am getting on a bit now...
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:32 am |
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davrosG5
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 am Posts: 6954 Location: Peebo
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You may be right. I haven't been paying that much attention.
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:43 am |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Ashley Madison 'discussed hacking competitor site' | Technology | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2 ... com-emailsWhat sort of BS security did that site have? 
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Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:12 pm |
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pcernie
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Security researcher may have solved Ashley Madison hack | TechRadar http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/ ... ck-1302799It's a hell of a song tbf...
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Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:49 pm |
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jonbwfc
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Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:53 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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That company will be sued back to the Stone Age if someone goes for a class action and wins. Surely the FBI will have to look at it too if anyone complains loud enough.
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Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:09 pm |
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