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Toronto police report two suicides associated with Ashley Madison hack | World news | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/a ... dison-hack

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Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:35 pm
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Would that constitute manslaughter?

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Would that constitute manslaughter?

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It'd be a hell of a case if a country went for it. National and international law, potentially ECHR, maybe even the UN...

Even with suicide I find it really hard to sympathise with the people who genuinely signed up and used these sites :o :?

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Manslaughter? hardly. Peoples' distress is being caused as much by their own action - signing up for a website that exists expressly to facilitate adultery - as it is by those actions being revealed. The hackers have committed crimes, but there' s no way you'd get a manslaughter charge to stick.


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It is their own fault for signing up, although why that would cause them to commit suicide is a bit of a stretch to me... Especially as the emails were not verified, so anybody with any sense would have signed up with a bogus email address or the address of somebody else...

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Especially as the emails were not verified, so anybody with any sense would have signed up with a bogus email address or the address of somebody else...

I suspect it's not just the email address that's being revealed - if people have paid a subscription they'll have had to give credit card info which usually includes an address and which can't just be any old stuff, it has to verify the card. So depending on exactly what data the company kept (and I'm not optimistic about their data removal policy being good) people could well be identifiable with some level of certainty.


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They put just about every detail online, and then IIRC someone made it really easy to search.

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While I struggle to muster any sympathy for people outed to their spouses, it seems much is being made about the hackers and little is being said about the company's failure to protect their customers' data.

Is being hacked being treated as an act of god now? Oh, it's terrible, but there's nothing to be done?

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While I struggle to muster any sympathy for people outed to their spouses, it seems much is being made about the hackers and little is being said about the company's failure to protect their customers' data.

Is being hacked being treated as an act of god now? Oh, it's terrible, but there's nothing to be done?

I suspect there is a lot of investigation going on. IIRC it sounded like the hack was an inside job which is vastly more difficult to protect against of course but that obviously doesn't mean companies don't have a duty to try.

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While I struggle to muster any sympathy for people outed to their spouses, it seems much is being made about the hackers and little is being said about the company's failure to protect their customers' data.

Is being hacked being treated as an act of god now? Oh, it's terrible, but there's nothing to be done?

I suspect there is a lot of investigation going on. IIRC it sounded like the hack was an inside job which is vastly more difficult to protect against of course but that obviously doesn't mean companies don't have a duty to try.

I thought that had been ruled out, hence the large reward being offered?

I may have dreamt that... I am getting on a bit now...

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You may be right. I haven't been paying that much attention.

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Ashley Madison 'discussed hacking competitor site' | Technology | The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2 ... com-emails

What sort of BS security did that site have? :shock:

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Security researcher may have solved Ashley Madison hack | TechRadar
http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/ ... ck-1302799

It's a hell of a song tbf...

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Over 95% of the female Ashley Madison accounts seem to be fake.

So basically the whole thing was a scam in the first place.


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Over 95% of the female Ashley Madison accounts seem to be fake.

So basically the whole thing was a scam in the first place.


That company will be sued back to the Stone Age if someone goes for a class action and wins. Surely the FBI will have to look at it too if anyone complains loud enough.

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