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Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:54 am ] | |||||||||
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34859860
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Author: | jonbwfc [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Junior doctors to strike |
That's a pretty much unprecedented result on a very large turnout. There's no way the government are going to be able to prevent that strike from happening other than by giving in (i.e. they haven't got a cat in hell's chance of it being ruled illegal), and I can't see Hunt giving in because he's both incredibly arrogant and patently as dumb as a rock. So there's either going to be a strike or a very quick 'reshuffle'. |
Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:30 am ] |
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Strike called off http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34965603 It's still disrupted planned services for today but I'm still frustrated as IMO the strike should have gone ahead. I don't know whether the threat alone was enough or whether it's just made all junior docs look pathetic for not going through with it. The Twunt should have listened before things got to this stage. But I don't trust him, least of any politician. This looks like delaying tactics from him. All "promises" and no action. Promises from politicians should be regarded as contempt until it has been fulfilled. At the moment, Twunt has said there's a "temporary time limited lifting" of the imposition of the contract. Either he has decided not to impose the contract, or he's definitely going to impose it (most likely) but the "promise" of talk was a delaying tactic. Strike, dammit. |
Author: | rustybucket [ Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:17 am ] |
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I disagree. The publicly-stated aim of the strike was to force the government to re-open negotiations. At the moment, there's a lot of good will behind the doctors. However, the government has at least given the appearance of starting to talk and the headlines would start to turn against the doctors if they didn't also back down. Best thing is to enter into the talks and, when the inevitable dipsh!tting happens, re-ballot for another strike. And if that happens, don't fcuk about - do a proper, full-on walk out. |
Author: | paulzolo [ Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:17 am ] |
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Hunt was bleating about the doctors not negotiating quickly enough, forgetting it was he who dragged his feet when the BMA invited him to talks at ACAS. |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:03 pm ] | |||||||||
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They don't need to, the strike mandate has been legally extended to account for the period of negotiations. If Hunt acts like a dick, they can just announce new strike dates without a re-ballot. I think this is true for a period of months. Unless the positions of both parties materially changes, the mandate they have still stands after all. |
Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:55 pm ] |
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As I understand it, there's only a month in which they can strike. Otherwise BMA has to re ballot and you can bet a lot of docs won't bother when this happens. |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:42 pm ] |
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According to quick google, they have until January 13th to announce a new strike date should they wish to. After that, they'd need to reballot before they could schedule action. Which means I suspect unless the dispute is resolved we'll get new strike dates announced on January 12th. |
Author: | pcernie [ Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:56 am ] |
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Junior doctors likely to strike as government talks falter | Society | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015 ... lks-falter Good on them. |
Author: | pcernie [ Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:57 pm ] |
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By the end of my first year as a doctor, I was ready to kill myself | Healthcare Professionals Network | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/healthcare-n ... spital-nhs Jeremy doesn't give a sh1t, he's got a career to think of! Also, the sooner you're gone the sooner he can sell the NHS off and become a type of consultant himself ![]() |
Author: | pcernie [ Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:38 am ] |
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Junior doctors' strike to go ahead after talks fail | Society | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016 ... talks-fail |
Author: | pcernie [ Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:18 pm ] |
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Linking junior doctors and terror is cheap politics | Barbara Ellen | Opinion | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... eremy-hunt I'd expect nothing more from Cnut's sycophants, but it'd be nice if such a story went mainstream. Meanwhile the Beeb are being criticised for breaking a story... |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:20 pm ] |
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It gets better... Hunt accuses BMA of using doctors' strike for political point scoring I actually literally spat my coffee out when I saw that. Hunt has more brass neck than that Mao statue they've just dismantled. |
Author: | pcernie [ Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:37 pm ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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An exhaustive process? Calling people and having them do the sums? And what's the point of that in places where you don't have enough beds never mind doctors?
Know what I want when I go into hospital? Treated by someone who is one groan away from being a zombie they're that exhausted. |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:14 pm ] | |||||||||
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If the government want the strike not to happen there's a simple way they can do that. |
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