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Author:  paulzolo [ Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:54 am ]
Post subject:  New York Wants to Force Vendors to Decrypt Users’ Phones

Quote:
A bill that is making its way through the New York state assembly would require that smartphone manufacturers build mechanisms into the devices that would allow the companies to decrypt or unlock them on demand from law enforcement.

The New York bill is the latest entry in a long-running debate between privacy advocates and security experts on one side and law enforcement agencies and many politicians on the other. The revelations of the last few years about widespread government surveillance, especially that involving cell phones and email systems, has spurred device manufacturers to increase the use of encryption. New Apple iPhones now are encrypted by default, as are some Android devices.

https://www.onthewire.io/new-york-wants ... rs-phones/

This will be interesting to watch. It may inform how our government handles this issue.

Author:  pcernie [ Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New York Wants to Force Vendors to Decrypt Users’ Phones

It just boils my piss. Total invasion of privacy on the off-chance a terrorist is dumb enough to keep using the same mobile phone, and in fact that the security forces are actively monitoring them. Which apparently they don't bother doing. Might as well hire fcuking G4S.

Author:  big_D [ Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New York Wants to Force Vendors to Decrypt Users’ Phones

On the one hand, it is reasonable, that if the police turn up with a court order, then the phone should be decrypted.

The reality is, however, that encryption cannot be backdoored and be secure. The only thing you could do is escrow the keys, but once that was done, if somebody broke into the escrow database, every phone would be open to hackers.

They will just have to learn to accept that they will have to ask the owner of the phone to unlock it. Which in America is a problem at the moment with the 2nd Amendment, I believe.

Author:  paulzolo [ Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New York Wants to Force Vendors to Decrypt Users’ Phones

big_D wrote:
On the one hand, it is reasonable, that if the police turn up with a court order, then the phone should be decrypted.

The reality is, however, that encryption cannot be backdoored and be secure. The only thing you could do is escrow the keys, but once that was done, if somebody broke into the escrow database, every phone would be open to hackers.

They will just have to learn to accept that they will have to ask the owner of the phone to unlock it. Which in America is a problem at the moment with the 2nd Amendment, I believe.


The second amendment is the right to bear arms one. The fifth amendment is the one that means you can’t incriminate yourself.

Author:  big_D [ Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New York Wants to Force Vendors to Decrypt Users’ Phones

Thanks, I thought 2nd didn't sound right...

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