x404.co.uk
http://www.x404.co.uk/forum/

Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
http://www.x404.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=25043		 Page 1 of 1
Author:  pcernie [ Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35623976

Dunno what to think about that, 1-6 seems reasonable as a shopper, but I don't know how it works out for staff.
Author:  TheFrenchun [ Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
6 hr shopping is fine I think and it protects zero hour workers from being called in on Sundays and potentially have no family time


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Author:  jonbwfc [ Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
Really? Do they honestly think people are thinking 'I would go shopping on Sunday but I'm completely occupied between 10:30 and 4, if they were just open a bit later...' Maybe there are a few people whose only free time to shop on a Sunday is between 4pm and 6pm, but I suspect they're a very very small percentage indeed. And most of them are 'occupied' working in shops, and would still be if the hours changed.

This isn't about helping out shoppers. This is about normalising Sunday as to be exactly like any other day, because then they can get rid of anything that makes trading on Sunday more expensive than on any other day - like overtime rates for some staff and/or the right to refuse rota work on religious grounds.

It's not about making life easier for the many. It's about making life more profitable for the few.
Author:  big_D [ Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
Over here, we get about 3 Sundays a year, when shops are open.
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
jonbwfc wrote:
This isn't about helping out shoppers. This is about normalising Sunday as to be exactly like any other day, because then they can get rid of anything that makes trading on Sunday more expensive than on any other day - like overtime rates for some staff and/or the right to refuse rota work on religious grounds.

Completely agree - this is about money and a 24/7 workforce for the population. I quite like the notion of a weekend - it means a large proportion of the public are resting and enjoying their time. It also makes it easier to arrange gatherings with family and friends.
Author:  jonlumb [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
I wonder how much this actually stems back to trying to make Doctors work weekends for the same rates as any other day etc.
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
^^^That did occur to me but I decided to say nothing. If everyone in other sectors work 24/7 for the same pay, then the same will apply to the NHS.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
It's also a bit rich from a bunch of people who seem to work about 26 weeks a year.
Author:  davrosG5 [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
jonbwfc wrote:
It's also a bit rich from a bunch of people who seem to work about 26 weeks a year.

While I won't disagree too much I would point out that MP's hours are a bit odd generally but Sunday isn't a day they normally work, no.
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
This got defeated. Thankfully.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35768674
Author:  pcernie [ Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
cloaked_wolf wrote:
This got defeated. Thankfully.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35768674


And the Tories are shouting about the SNP somewhat similar to how they shouted about the Upper House when in fact their own MPs had the wobbles over yet another Ozzy-style notion. Apparently fuel duty is the latest worrier for them.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
So basically they're having a tantrum because they didn't get their own way.
Author:  hifidelity2 [ Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
Well to be fare while there was lots of Tory Rebels they already have relaxed trading laws in Scotland - so while the SNP MP's don't vote in the Scottish Parliament it seems to be that the SNP are happy to exploit Scottish workers but protect English Workers.

It makes you wonder how of this vote was to protect workers and how much just to embarrass the Tory Party
Author:  davrosG5 [ Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Relax Sunday trading laws to help shops, MPs say
Political party engages in politics against opposing party shock!

Scotland has had different rules for Sunday working from the rest of the UK for years, the differences may even pre-date the Scottish parliament but I'm not entirely sure - I certainly remeber as a kid being surprised stuff wasn't open later on Sundays in England when visiting grandparents.
The SNP's argument was that they wanted to protect premium pay for working on Sundays which covers those in England as well as Scotland. If it's treated as just another working day then there's not justification for premium pay.
As a side benefit the also got to stick it to the Tories. Which one was the priority is of course open to debate.
Page 1 of 1 All times are UTC
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
https://www.phpbb.com/