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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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UK must leave European convention on human rights, says Theresa May | Politics | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... referendumThe convention needs reform, there's no doubt about it (Turkey membership talks and appeasement as a recent shining example), but when even a Labour government was involved in handing over innocents to be tortured, who the fcuk would trust a woman even the Tories think is an idiot? The sort of person who stands by the snooper's charter without a second thought? Do one, cnuto.
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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[LIFTED]. Off. You. Horrible. Woman.
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:07 am |
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davrosG5
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 am Posts: 6954 Location: Peebo
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Don't tell her the new data protection regulations have been signed off on, with 3100 changes, strenghtening individual's protection in several areas...
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:35 am |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Cabinet rift widens over European convention on human rights | Politics | The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... man-rightsDidn't know that about the GFA.
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:49 pm |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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Well, I wouldn‘t trust our government to make any sane decisions on a human rights issue. I believe that such things are really not for one country to decide anyway, but a collective. We need to be able to be told “stop it” by a higher authority on such issues.
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Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:50 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:59 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I think we should pull out. There's nothing wrong with having our own laws on this issue.
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Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:24 am |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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i believe the HRA which is within UK law should be renamed the British bill of rights and British courts have the final say on this bill of rights not the ECHR ...
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paulzolo
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No. Stuff like this needs to be multinational. It all sounds seductive this "going alone" but we know only too well that things can turn on a penny. We need to be monitored as much as we monitor others. If we do end up with a DIY option, who has the checks and balances to ensure that things won't get watered down, amended, adjusted so that a little abuse by the state is OK. And that little abuse grows into something more sinister? Don't say "take to the streets" because we know how effective that is when it comes to changing the current administration's mind. It even the previous one. If this is about "we can't do anything to remove the angry brown person" then remember that those rules apply equally to you, and there will always be anomalies that seem to make no sense when isolated by Daily Mail mentality, but do make sense when protecting the populous as a whole. No - we need to be told when we're going it wrong, and made to stop. That is something that I trust the ECHR to do more than something Gove and Cameron have dreamt up.
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