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Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:44 am ]
Post subject:  Leslie Jones Twitter row: Breitbart editor banned over abuse
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An editor with the conservative website Breitbart has been banned from Twitter after racist abuse was directed at a star of the new Ghostbusters film.

Leslie Jones quit Twitter this week after the abuse, and said the network was not doing enough to stop it.

She accused Breitbart technology editor Milo Yiannopoulos, known as @nero, of directing the abuse.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36842710

Good - “free speech” does not guarantee you the right to a platform, nor does it give you the right to be heard.

I’ve not seen the film, so I’m bemused about the abuse it and the actors are getting about it. It seems to be just because the lead roles are all female, and that one of those is black.
Author:  pcernie [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Leslie Jones Twitter row: Breitbart editor banned over a
The problem is entire sections of the internet's usual tribes are getting conflated - some people are just pissed off that what is likely a sh1t film has been constructed off a cult brand. Others are clearly just the usual Twitter fcuktards.

Truth is, the film would likely have been an even weaker hit if it wasn't for the controversey. All of this serves Sony, and I doubt they'll give a crap about their actress.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Leslie Jones Twitter row: Breitbart editor banned over a
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Author:  Spreadie [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Leslie Jones Twitter row: Breitbart editor banned over a
pcernie wrote:
The problem is entire sections of the internet's usual tribes are getting conflated - some people are just pissed off that what is likely a sh1t film has been constructed off a cult brand. Others are clearly just the usual Twitter fcuktards.

Truth is, the film would likely have been an even weaker hit if it wasn't for the controversey. All of this serves Sony, and I doubt they'll give a crap about their actress.

You really hate that film, don't you, ernie?

What was so bad about it?
Author:  pcernie [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Leslie Jones Twitter row: Breitbart editor banned over a
Spreadie wrote:
pcernie wrote:
The problem is entire sections of the internet's usual tribes are getting conflated - some people are just pissed off that what is likely a sh1t film has been constructed off a cult brand. Others are clearly just the usual Twitter fcuktards.

Truth is, the film would likely have been an even weaker hit if it wasn't for the controversey. All of this serves Sony, and I doubt they'll give a crap about their actress.

You really hate that film, don't you, ernie?

What was so bad about it?


I've nothing against the film itself (I haven't seen it!), it's the lazy, cynical BS around it's production that's now being blamed on the usual Twitter w@nkers. It's a vested interests sham. By most accounts the film's average at best and hasn't made the money it should, but Sony probably can't believe bad press is actually propping it up.

Even the director of the original/producer of this one has suggested he doesn't believe the thrust of the controversey is misogyny.
Author:  veato [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Leslie Jones Twitter row: Breitbart editor banned over a
I'm not sure about this one. Twitter being a private entity can remove anyone they want from their platform. This doesn't impact on Milo's "free speech" either as he still carries that right - just not on Twitter.

What I don't agree with is that the ban was deserving. I didn't see any evidence of him "abusing" the actress in question nor any tweets directing others to abuse her.

I understand she did get some hateful/racist remarks but I don't see how that is Milo's responsibility. It's also quite telling that a lot of those responsible for the actual abuse have not themselves been banned.

I can't help but feel that this was a targeted attack to get an outspoken controversial conservative banned - after all the 3rd wave feminists (feminazi?) have been trying (unsuccessfully) for quite some time.

It's social (internet) justice and I don't like it.
Author:  pcernie [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Leslie Jones Twitter row: Breitbart editor banned over a
Twitter vows to act more swiftly after banning Leslie Jones abuser | Technology | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... annopoulos

Yeah, I remember the last hundred times you said that.
Author:  jonlumb [ Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Leslie Jones Twitter row: Breitbart editor banned over a
veato wrote:
I'm not sure about this one. Twitter being a private entity can remove anyone they want from their platform. This doesn't impact on Milo's "free speech" either as he still carries that right - just not on Twitter.

What I don't agree with is that the ban was deserving. I didn't see any evidence of him "abusing" the actress in question nor any tweets directing others to abuse her.

I understand she did get some hateful/racist remarks but I don't see how that is Milo's responsibility. It's also quite telling that a lot of those responsible for the actual abuse have not themselves been banned.

I can't help but feel that this was a targeted attack to get an outspoken controversial conservative banned - after all the 3rd wave feminists (feminazi?) have been trying (unsuccessfully) for quite some time.

It's social (internet) justice and I don't like it.


I believe in this particular instance it was more about orchestrating dogpilling by his supporters than him abusing her directly. He's been suspended plenty of times in the past for posting insane [LIFTED] as well, so there's plenty of form there.
Author:  veato [ Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Leslie Jones Twitter row: Breitbart editor banned over a
jonlumb wrote:
I believe in this particular instance it was more about orchestrating dogpilling by his supporters than him abusing her directly.


There's no actual evidence of this happening though. In fact it has been suggested since the ban that the abuse directed Leslie was already ongoing and Milo waded into the middle of it *Source*
Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Leslie Jones Twitter row: Breitbart editor banned over a
You have the right to free speech. However, you d not have the right to a platform, nor do you have a right to be heard. Twitter is a private company, and they let people use their platform - however, they do not have an obligation to anyone.

Anyone* complaining about Twitter censoring their freedom of speech clearly miss the point that they also have the freedom to set up their own platform.

*That is anyone in a country that has freed of speech. I know that there are many counties that control such platforms.
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