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Author:  ProfessorF [ Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:09 am ]
Post subject:  Identical lottery draw was coincidence

Anyone got Derren Brown's number?

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Identical lottery draw was coincidence
Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:25pm EDT

SOFIA (Reuters) - The draw of the same six winning numbers twice in a row in Bulgaria's national lottery was a freak coincidence, officials said Thursday.

Sports Minister Svilen Neikov ordered an investigation after the numbers 4, 15, 23, 24, 35 and 42 were selected, in a different order, by a machine live on television on September 6 and 10. The results caused suspicions of manipulation.

An investigation found no wrongdoing in the draw or determining the winners, its chairman Konstantin Simeonov said.

"We cannot talk about any manipulation," he said.

The chance of the same six numbers coming up twice in two consecutive rounds was one in more than 4 million but was not impossible, respected mathematician Michail Konstantinov has said.

An unprecedented 18 people guessed all six numbers when they were drawn the second time and each got 10,164 levs ($7,700). Nobody won the top prize the first time.

The lottery organizers say it is impossible to tamper with the lottery machine. The draws take place in the presence of a special committee and is broadcast live on national television which guarantee no cheating, they say.

"This is happening for the first time in the 52-year history of the lottery. We are absolutely stunned to see such a freak coincidence but it did happen," a spokeswoman said.

(Reporting by Anna Mudeva)


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Author:  LaptopAcidXperience [ Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:11 pm ]
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Where was Derren Brown, that's right he was deluding stupid fat British people.

Author:  veato [ Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:29 pm ]
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LaptopAcidXperience wrote:
Where was Derren Brown, that's right he was deluding stupid fat British people.


What is wrong with you

Author:  Fogmeister [ Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:31 pm ]
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veato wrote:
LaptopAcidXperience wrote:
Where was Derren Brown, that's right he was deluding stupid fat British people.


What is wrong with you

I think he's that guy from PCP. He must be. I've forgotten his name though.

It must be the same guy. I've been thinking it for a while now.

Author:  finlay666 [ Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:28 pm ]
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veato wrote:
LaptopAcidXperience wrote:
Where was Derren Brown, that's right he was deluding stupid fat British people.


What is wrong with you


Don't ask me, ask Bratty...

As for the lottery... It's very uncommon but not impossible. Given the numbar etc of countries that operate a lottery, the number of draws per year it's inevitible that sooner or later this would happen

Author:  LaptopAcidXperience [ Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:39 pm ]
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Fogmeister wrote:
veato wrote:
LaptopAcidXperience wrote:
Where was Derren Brown, that's right he was deluding stupid fat British people.


What is wrong with you

I think he's that guy from PCP. He must be. I've forgotten his name though.

It must be the same guy. I've been thinking it for a while now.


I'm still on PCP with the same user name I have here, I'm not trying to hide anything.

My posts may be extreme and sometimes obtuse, but I am entitled to my opinion, if you don't like it, debate them, call me out on them, correct me, it's not my intention to upset people, my posts are not intended to be personal.

In answer to your question, I'm dissatisfied with society.

Author:  koli [ Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:01 pm ]
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finlay666 wrote:
As for the lottery... It's very uncommon but not impossible. Given the numbar etc of countries that operate a lottery, the number of draws per year it's inevitible that sooner or later this would happen


So how do you explain 18 people guessing the same number correctly second time?

Author:  JJW009 [ Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:06 pm ]
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koli wrote:
finlay666 wrote:
As for the lottery... It's very uncommon but not impossible. Given the numbar etc of countries that operate a lottery, the number of draws per year it's inevitible that sooner or later this would happen


So how do you explain 18 people guessing the same number correctly second time?

A lot of people base their numbers on what came previously. Some believe in "lucky balls" or temporal weighting. It's actually a perfectly valid "method", because if the symmetry of the system is imperfect then the randomness is compromised. I doubt they expected every number to come up, but they were probably hoping at least some of the balls still leaned that way.

18 people isn't very many, out of how many millions?

Author:  finlay666 [ Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:28 pm ]
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koli wrote:
finlay666 wrote:
As for the lottery... It's very uncommon but not impossible. Given the numbar etc of countries that operate a lottery, the number of draws per year it's inevitible that sooner or later this would happen


So how do you explain 18 people guessing the same number correctly second time?


Any set of numbers has a chance of coming out any time

It's random, many base numbers from previous results
.... possibly one or 2 could have been practical jokes (record old lottery show, play over new one, they see the winning ticket then you break it to them) that went well (or should that be wrong?)

Author:  veato [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:21 am ]
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LaptopAcidXperience wrote:

My posts may be extreme and sometimes obtuse, but I am entitled to my opinion, if you don't like it, debate them, call me out on them, correct me, it's not my intention to upset people, my posts are not intended to be personal.

In answer to your question, I'm dissatisfied with society.


I would never begrudge anyone having an opinion, everyone has that right. But look at the comment here about the fat british public. Are you saying all british are fat or that he only fooled the fat ones? Its just uncalled for. Why does 'fat' have to come into it at all?

Author:  LaptopAcidXperience [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:48 pm ]
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veato wrote:
LaptopAcidXperience wrote:

My posts may be extreme and sometimes obtuse, but I am entitled to my opinion, if you don't like it, debate them, call me out on them, correct me, it's not my intention to upset people, my posts are not intended to be personal.

In answer to your question, I'm dissatisfied with society.


I would never begrudge anyone having an opinion, everyone has that right. But look at the comment here about the fat british public. Are you saying all british are fat or that he only fooled the fat ones? Its just uncalled for. Why does 'fat' have to come into it at all?


Because not only are a lot of people physically fat, they're mentally fat, gorged on 4x4s, celebrity [LIFTED] and debt, ignorant and greedy and stupid people that comprise the majority of the population of this country, people too lazy to discern.

You won't like that response, but deep down you'll know it's true, just look around your office, the supermarket and down your street.

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