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Author:  pcernie [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:22 am ]
Post subject:  France Blasts Polanski's Arrest Over 70s Case
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World- ... 3584?f=rss
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: France Blasts Polanski's Arrest Over 70s Case
pervert finally gets caught and is to be extradited to face prison... about bloody time.
Author:  Paul1965 [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: France Blasts Polanski's Arrest Over 70s Case
bobbdobbs wrote:
pervert finally gets caught and is to be extradited to face prison... about bloody time.

Too right. I don't know why the French are getting so agitated about this. From the BBC:

Quote:
Culture minister Frederic Mitterand said President Sarkozy was following the case "with great attention".

and
Quote:
French foreign minister Bernard Kouchner called the detention of the film-maker - a French citizen - in Switzerland a "bit sinister".


What's more sinister? An extradition attempt or drugging and raping a 13 year old girl?
Author:  ProfessorF [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:20 pm ]
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Samantha Geimer wrote:
I think he's sorry, I think he knows it was wrong. I don't think he's a danger to society. I don't think he needs to be locked up forever and no one has ever come out ever - besides me - and accused him of anything. It was 30 years ago now. It's an unpleasant memory ... (but) I can live with it.


Source.

I'm not sure what to think about this. He's clearly got to serve justice in some fashion, but after all this time and when there's apparently no enmity from the victim, and given the [LIFTED] he's been through his entire life over this already... I don't know what the punishment should be. I'll be watching with interest.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:30 pm ]
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He pleaded guilty and then did a runner? Why shouldn't he be extradited? The real question is why has it taken this long?
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:31 pm ]
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bobbdobbs wrote:
pervert finally gets caught and is to be extradited to face prison... about bloody time.

Yes but the woman involved does not want him arrested. She consented and as far as she is concerned it is the past. I certainly do not condone what he has done but this is a farce. The US do not have a fair judicial system.
Author:  ProfessorF [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:34 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
She consented and as far as she is concerned it is the past.


Hmm, I'm not sure she consented, in fact it's far from it according to the accounts given. She does, however, seem not to be to bothered if he's arrested or not.
Author:  Paul1965 [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:45 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
She consented and as far as she is concerned it is the past.


From the Daily Mail
Quote:
Miss Geimer testified that Polanski performed various sex acts on her after giving her champagne and drugs.
She said: 'I said no several times, and then, well, gave up on that.'
Polanski was initially charged with rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy and lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14.
But under the terms of his plea bargain, these charges were dismissed and he admitted the lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor.


I wouldn't have thought a 13 year old would legally be capable of consent in these circumstances.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:49 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
She consented and as far as she is concerned it is the past.


Hmm, I'm not sure she consented, in fact it's far from it according to the accounts given. She does, however, seem not to be to bothered if he's arrested or not.

This case has popped up periodically and on one of the previous occasions she said that she did not wish him to go to jail. It was all over with as far as she was concerned. This is simply a political move, by some District Attorney trying to make a name for himself.
Author:  big_D [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:00 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
He pleaded guilty and then did a runner? Why shouldn't he be extradited? The real question is why has it taken this long?

He did a runner, because he believed the State wasn't going to stick to their side of the bargain - he had already served his time, and he believed they were going to renege on their side of the deal... :?

I really don't know what to think, to be honest. The victim doesn't want him to serve time and nobody else has come forward to say that he also had under age sex with them, maybe it was an aberration and the shock of landing in jail learnt him his lesson...

He should have been punished, and according to the deal, he did serve his punishment, if that is the case, what are the US doing? If the sentence was too lenient, they should have thought about it, before offering it... :?
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: France Blasts Polanski's Arrest Over 70s Case
Amnesia10 wrote:
bobbdobbs wrote:
pervert finally gets caught and is to be extradited to face prison... about bloody time.

Yes but the woman involved does not want him arrested. She consented and as far as she is concerned it is the past. I certainly do not condone what he has done but this is a farce. The US do not have a fair judicial system.


He settled with her out of court for an undisclosed sum. That doesnt mitigate that he had unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor after plea barganing down from even more serious charges.
In this case he should be sent back to do the time for his crime. Sex with a 13 year old girl using alcohol and drugs is unforgivable.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:10 pm ]
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bobbdobbs wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
bobbdobbs wrote:
pervert finally gets caught and is to be extradited to face prison... about bloody time.

Yes but the woman involved does not want him arrested. She consented and as far as she is concerned it is the past. I certainly do not condone what he has done but this is a farce. The US do not have a fair judicial system.


He settled with her out of court for an undisclosed sum. That doesnt mitigate that he had unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor after plea barganing down from even more serious charges.
In this case he should be sent back to do the time for his crime. Sex with a 13 year old girl using alcohol and drugs is unforgivable.

I have said that I do not condone what he has done. She has put this behind her and it keeps recurring. As far as she is concerned the constant bringing up of this is worse than what she went through initially.

He has not offended since. He has also lost a lot of work because of this so it is not as if he got off scot free.
Author:  pcernie [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:19 pm ]
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Polanski's defenders lose sight of the true victim

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... umn?page=1

Grand jury transcripts but a one sided article, still worth reading though... Somehow I don't expect he'll get the sentence he deserves, and I'd also argue for a retrial.
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:00 am ]
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pcernie wrote:
Polanski's defenders lose sight of the true victim

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... umn?page=1

Grand jury transcripts but a one sided article, still worth reading though... Somehow I don't expect he'll get the sentence he deserves, and I'd also argue for a retrial.


Why a retrial? Unless it is for all the criminal acts he did. Then fare enough. He should be allowd to gently rot away in prison knowing the general population inside would love to discuss the merits of child abuse :twisted:
He did the cime now he should do the time.
Author:  big_D [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:53 am ]
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bobdobbs wrote:
He did the cime now he should do the time.

But that is the main point of the argument... He did do the agreed upon time, but fled when it looked like the state would renage on the agreed upon sentence... :?

I'm not condoning what he did, but if I had done my time and got wind that I was about to be locked up a second time, I would probably do a runner as well...
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