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| Author: | pcernie [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet |
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/352615/kasp ... e-internet While he's being extreme in his outlook, he's quite right about us having to look at minimizing the illegal aspects of the net as it develops, and I'm talking about the more serious crimes being dealt with first 
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| Author: | okenobi [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet |
Fascist, anti-freedom [LIFTED], frankly. I don't agree in the slightest. He's just another suit on the make and can consequently do one AFAIC. |
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| Author: | MrStevenRogers [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:10 pm ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet | |||||||||
its the best idea that i have come across for the internet … |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:05 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet | ||||||||||||||||||
That is the UK screwed then! 
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| Author: | big_D [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet |
The problem is, the biggest offenders include the USA and the UK. Aren't the amis the biggest spammers currently, having overtaken China? And the UK were well inside the top 10 last time I saw a report. I've been saying for years that we need some sort of computer driving licence, with my current job I think that is even more essential. As to Microsoft Security Essentials, I think it should be a standard part of every Windows install, but with an override facility, like the Firewall, where it can be replaced with a "pro" product. |
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| Author: | phantombudgie [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:49 pm ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet | |||||||||
That is a frankly ridiculous amount of common sense you have there 
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:24 pm ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet | |||||||||
That was why I said the UK was screwed. I can see the merits in such a scheme but what about mac and linux users whose systems are more secure to start with? |
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| Author: | Linux_User [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet |
I agree with Okenobi. Frankly if that's how he feels I won't be renewing my Kaspersky subscription. If anything, Kaspersky should be thrown off the 'net. |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet |
Silly man. |
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| Author: | okenobi [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:27 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet | ||||||||||||||||||
Would you be happy to run it in place of a free av product such as Antivir or AVG? Or do I need to still have something else installed?
 Thing is, the internet is what it is. To deny access to any country/group/whatever, would go against the fundamental principles of the net. It's probably the only medium/place on the planet where the people have more power and a greater voice than governments and corporations. That's incredibly important. To me, and lot's of other people. Of course, to some, it's just a way to access Facebook and Youtube
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| Author: | big_D [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:22 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet | ||||||||||||||||||
What has the security of Linux and OS X got to do with the production of Spam? A lot of companies that spam buy software that produces spam in vast numbers - look what happened when the US court managed to get the ISP of America's biggest spammer to switch him off; spam fell over 30%! That was someone deliberately sending out spam, from a farm of machines, not a bot-net. As to the security of OS X and Linux, both are equally susceptible to phishing attacks, the same as Windows - well less so, in the last round of tests, IE actually came out ahead of all the other major browsers in terms of phishing protection... Windows 7 also includes better security for buffer overruns and randomisation of code locations - OS X does it for applications, but its key libraries, unlike Windows, aren't randomised upon loading, so they provide a much easier vector of attack than Windows 7. User education is the biggest problem. And that covers all platforms, not just Windows. Nowadays, a lot of the vulnerabilities are less serious for Windows users, because a lot of the remote access bugs found recently only work on local networks. The biggest problem at the moment is the man-in-middle SSL attack, which Marlin Spike demonstrated recently, using ARP spoofing, it can intercept all traffic between a secure server and a client and pass a non-secured, or a secure page with the invalid Id, which comes over as valid - a flaw in SSL, which affected IE, Safari, Chrome and Opera, but which was fixed last week, which allowed the valid name to be followed by a null and the invalid domain and the SSL certificate was shown as valid on the client, even though it came from an intercept. That allowed Marlin Spike to intercept a couple of hundred user ids and passwords in a 24 hour period in at a local public wireless access point! That has nothing to do with operating system, just the poor implementation of security in web browsers (as a whole). To be really secure, a "new" Internet infrastructure is needed, which is designed around security - the current system was designed around a closed private network, it was never intended to be used for a large international network, where "bad guys" would also have access, so hacks have been continually placed on top of the networking infrastructure to make up for it, but it is inherrently broken. |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kaspersky calls for countries to be cut off the internet |
Spam as you say can come from spammers and not just bot nets. In terms of bot nets maybe ISP's should be made to warn users by letter that they had a problem. Then if the problem continued the ISP could impose restrictions. I will accept that users are the problem in 90% of the cases. Maybe what you suggest is much better. I am open to suggestions. I am very careful about the sites that I go to and do not ignore any warnings that I get. Others probably do. |
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