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Author: | pcernie [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:36 pm ] | |||||||||
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8423043.stm Er, except they haven't really, as the BBC somewhat admits in the paragraph directly below the headline:
![]() The Tories are playing with fire for votes I suspect, and if the issue is going to be looked at meaningfully, the outcome can't be ambiguous - can I stab someone once or twice who breaks into my house for example, so long as I don't make him or her part of the Xmas decorations? ![]() ![]() What if I'm chasing someone on my property and decide in the heat of the moment (a very important factor) that I want to take them down somehow so they don't escape? Who's to decide what's reasonable then? Some magistrate who's possibly having a bad day? ![]() |
Author: | Linux_User [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:58 pm ] | |||||||||
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A Jury of your peers. |
Author: | rustybucket [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:05 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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You mean stupid people. ![]() |
Author: | Linux_User [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:09 pm ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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...who are very anti-burglar. ![]() |
Author: | pcernie [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:15 pm ] |
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That's just it, the whole thing's so bloody random - you could get a magistrate or judge who, depending on what newspaper he reads, decides how lengthy a sentence you're getting. Or you could get a bunch of Jeremy Kyle watchers who, depending on your luck, are either very pro/anti burglary ![]() |
Author: | pcernie [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:23 pm ] | |||||||||
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politi ... 5516?f=rss
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Author: | pcernie [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:58 pm ] | |||||||||
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DPP rejects demand for law change on householders who fight off burglars http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/2 ... -rejection
But that's just it, none of it is remotely clear at this point for the householder - can I stab someone, intruder or not, if they have their back turned to me in my house and I don't think they should be there? What if I argue that I was afraid they'd do worse to me or there was mitigating circumstances? Not to mention all this is at the whim of a judge or magistrate, not to mention interfering civil servants as came to notice recently... Why should householders be the ones with doubts about the whole thing? ![]() |
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