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Author:  Coref [ Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:56 pm ]
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Gordon says there is nothing to worry about regarding our gas supply:
Quote:
Meanwhile, Prime Minister Gordon Brown has insisted the country is not facing a gas supply crisis, and said: "I think Britain can deal with these problems."

"There are always difficulties when we have a long spell of bad weather. But we can cope," Mr Brown added.


As if by magic...
Quote:
Factories in the north-west of England and east Midlands are today having their energy supplies cut off for the first time in years as the severe weather and creaking power infrastructure lead to 1970s-style rationing.


Is he unlucky, yet again, or just really very incompetent?

Author:  james016 [ Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas rationing

The latter.

Author:  jonlumb [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:40 am ]
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Broon does seem to have put Labour into a bit of a bind. I really think that even if they produced the most amazing, convincing manifesto, produce a really good election campaign and genuinely engage with people that they will still lose simply because it's Brown at the helm. I don't even think it's a John Major style lack of charisma, but more just how disastrous his time as PM has been.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:13 am ]
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If they cut me off there'll be hell to pay.
Our house is freezing if the heating isn't on most of the time and our son wakes up every hour if his room is cold. He sleeps through if it's warm.

Author:  Linux_User [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas rationing

l3v1ck wrote:
If they cut me off there'll be hell to pay.
Our house is freezing if the heating isn't on most of the time and our son wakes up every hour if his room is cold. He sleeps through if it's warm.


They're rationing industrial supplies in order to keep domestic supplies going. :)

Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:35 am ]
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That's okay then.

Author:  HeatherKay [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:47 am ]
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The factories affected have signed up to this. They have a tariff with their suppliers which is quite low, on the proviso they get cut off in times of stress. They're not just being closed down by government edict.

;)

Author:  davrosG5 [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas rationing

HeatherKay wrote:
The factories affected have signed up to this. They have a tariff with their suppliers which is quite low, on the proviso they get cut off in times of stress. They're not just being closed down by government edict.

;)


Beat me to it Heather.

Domestic consumers are, by law IIRC, the very last people who will have their gas supplies cut off in the event of a serious shortage.
Ironically gas fired power stations, which are very large gas users as you'd expect, get cut off before domestic customers. If that happens and causes a blackout or brownouts in the grid then most people's heating will shut off as gas central heating normally requires an electricity supply to work. People with gas fires (or any type of solid duel/oil fired method of heating) will be in a better position than those with just central heating.

So, that's something to look forward to.

Author:  Nick [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:50 pm ]
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This story seems to surface periodically.

There has never been any "rationing" before, so I'm willing to be there won't be any this time.

And no, the factories mentioned don't count as being rationed because they volunteered.

Author:  ProfessorF [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:56 pm ]
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It's not as if the product of these factories is going to be going anywhere any time soon, either...

Author:  belchingmatt [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:02 pm ]
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davrosG5 wrote:
Ironically gas fired power stations, which are very large gas users as you'd expect, get cut off before domestic customers. If that happens and causes a blackout or brownouts in the grid then most people's heating will shut off as gas central heating normally requires an electricity supply to work. People with gas fires (or any type of solid duel/oil fired method of heating) will be in a better position than those with just central heating.

So, that's something to look forward to.


Every central heating system that I've seen required an electric pump to move the water around the heating circuit. My parents have an oil burner so should probably get a small diesel generator, enough to power the central heating, fridge and freezer in case (when) the lights go out.

Author:  davrosG5 [ Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:57 am ]
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belchingmatt wrote:
Every central heating system that I've seen required an electric pump to move the water around the heating circuit. My parents have an oil burner so should probably get a small diesel generator, enough to power the central heating, fridge and freezer in case (when) the lights go out.


Indeed. I was going more for people with some sort of actual fire/stove/log burner/aga type thing that could be huddled around when the lights go out.

Author:  JJW009 [ Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gas rationing

I've always wanted some form of combined heat and power, ever since my Dad worked on a system back in the 80s.

The problem with combustion engine units is mainly one of noise and maintenance. Some kind of methane fuel cell would be awesome though:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_fuel_cell

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