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Author:  paulzolo [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:19 pm ]
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I think I’ll be watching the Daily Mail slowly implode over this one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... verts.html

Next, we’ll be getting some chump from the government wondering why there are no male primary school teachers.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:49 pm ]
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Good luck to him. whether the Daily Heil gets their knickers in a twist or not, that's about as clear a case of discrimination as I can think of. It's actually no different to sodding Rosa Parks. He's being ordered to move seats not because of something he's done but because of something he is. I really can't see BA will have a leg to stand on.

Jon
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:50 pm ]
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To be fair, I'd be hugely embarrassed if that was me. Being treated like a kiddie fiddler just because you're a man just isn't on.
If they offered me a business class seat I'd be happy to move, but otherwise I'd be very annoyed. I always book a seat next to the isle so I can get up and walk around whenever I want, I'd be even more narked if they put me between other people.
Quote:
'A plane is a public place - cabin crew regularly walk down the aisles and passengers are sat so close to each other. The risk of any abuse is virtually zero.
Sounds right to me.
Quote:
'Furthermore statistically children are far more likely to be abused by a member of their family. Does that mean that BA are going to ban children sitting next to their own parents?'
Amusing but true. It would be fun to see BA argue against it.
Quote:
'If the airline is that concerned they should sit unaccompanied children with cabin crew who have no doubt been thoroughly vetted.'
Not really possible as the crew are always on the move, but if they sat them in the front row near the toilets, there's always a queue of passengers there.
Author:  rustybucket [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:00 pm ]
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I would simply stay very calm and refuse.

If they escalate it then I would very calmly inform them that they can move the child, but I'm going nowhere.

I'm 6" and 18st of ex-American Footballer - good luck.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:03 pm ]
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rustybucket wrote:
If they escalate it then I would very calmly inform them that they can move the child, but I'm going nowhere.
Quite a reasonable position to take. What annoys me most is if that the captain tells you to move, it's a legal order and they can arrest you if you don't. Even though that would be a massive abuse of power. Of course, they'd be rushing to grovel and compensate you after you sold your story to the papers giving them bad PR.
Author:  rustybucket [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:16 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
rustybucket wrote:
If they escalate it then I would very calmly inform them that they can move the child, but I'm going nowhere.
Quite a reasonable position to take. What annoys me most is if that the captain tells you to move, it's a legal order and they can arrest you if you don't. Even though that would be a massive abuse of power. Of course, they'd be rushing to grovel and compensate you after you sold your story to the papers giving them bad PR.

Then simply inform the captain that by publicly implying that you may be a paedophile, he is slandering you.

Ask for his name and licence number

Inform him that he is violating your right to privacy, being discriminatory and abusing his rights under Section 6 of the Human Rights Act 1998 and Articles 8, 14 & 17 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

Wait to be arrested.

Happily take BA to the cleaners
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:36 pm ]
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rustybucket wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
rustybucket wrote:
If they escalate it then I would very calmly inform them that they can move the child, but I'm going nowhere.
Quite a reasonable position to take. What annoys me most is if that the captain tells you to move, it's a legal order and they can arrest you if you don't. Even though that would be a massive abuse of power. Of course, they'd be rushing to grovel and compensate you after you sold your story to the papers giving them bad PR.

Then simply inform the captain that by publicly implying that you may be a paedophile, he is libelling you.
Slandering. ;)
Author:  big_D [ Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:33 am ]
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I would think Mr. Fischer could also get compensation for distress to his wife. 6 months pregnant, having her man treated like a criminal and taken away from her... The logical thing would have been to move the darned kid. :?

I'm with Rusty. I'd stick up for my rights.
Author:  belchingmatt [ Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:00 am ]
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Child abusers are not just men either.
Author:  paulzolo [ Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:12 am ]
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belchingmatt wrote:
Child abusers are not just men either.


Yes - we’ve had that rather high profile case of the nursery worker in Plymouth recently.
Author:  Fogmeister [ Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:13 am ]
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big_D wrote:
I would think Mr. Fischer could also get compensation for distress to his wife. 6 months pregnant, having her man treated like a criminal and taken away from her... The logical thing would have been to move the darned kid. :?

I'm with Rusty. I'd stick up for my rights.

+1
Author:  Linux_User [ Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:24 am ]
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Fogmeister wrote:
big_D wrote:
I would think Mr. Fischer could also get compensation for distress to his wife. 6 months pregnant, having her man treated like a criminal and taken away from her... The logical thing would have been to move the darned kid. :?

I'm with Rusty. I'd stick up for my rights.

+1


Also +1, this is a disgusting policy.
Author:  vitaminz [ Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:06 am ]
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Also the airline industry is renowned for having the highest percentage of homosexual employees of any. Homosexuals are, compared to heterosexuals much more likely to be involved in acts of indeceny, gross indecency and other sexual offences.
Anyone see where I am heading here ?

Sure its nonsense to bring this up really, but its no more nonsense than the policies detailed in the news story.

The thing is, the average Daily Mail reader , believes this kind of stuff and probably thinks BA have a point, even the blokes. The same kind of people who thought banning guns would stop all gun crime, after Dunblane. When in fact Gun crime went up every year since then. All the banning of guns did was make the job of imposing martial law slightly easier when if there was some kind of national emergency or similar, nothing to do with anyone trying to prevent mentally ill people killing other people. You can't ban mental illness, that was the route of the problem.

Which brings me conveniently to BA, similarly someone in BA is obviously mentally ill to come up with a policy like this, not just that but also extremely myopic to the fact that it will annoy customers, which it no doubt has/will.

Another issue is a company like BA now treats its paying customers as people who it's doing a favour for, as if they are some kind of soup kitchen, rather than acknowledging the fact they are capitalist scum who make their money from the very people they are treating like something they stepped in.
Author:  ProfessorF [ Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:31 am ]
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vitaminz wrote:
Also the airline industry is renowned for having the highest percentage of homosexual employees of any. Homosexuals are, compared to heterosexuals much more likely to be involved in acts of indeceny, gross indecency and other sexual offences.
Anyone see where I am heading here ?


Not really, but I think I hear the approach of the villagers - yes, I can see the flaming torches from here.
Author:  vitaminz [ Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:37 am ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
vitaminz wrote:
Also the airline industry is renowned for having the highest percentage of homosexual employees of any. Homosexuals are, compared to heterosexuals much more likely to be involved in acts of indeceny, gross indecency and other sexual offences.
Anyone see where I am heading here ?


Not really, but I think I hear the approach of the villagers - yes, I can see the flaming torches from here.


Its quite simple, there are more black people on death row, more gay people are involved in acts of gross indecency in public places, not anti homosexual or racist rhetoric but actual facts. To follow the logic of BA, all black people are a risk of commiting serious crimes like murder whilst flying on their planes, and all gay people could do something obscene whilst on the plane.

No need to make it look like I am gay bashing, you don't write for the Mail do you ?

Plus I could be a gay, black, airline pilot anyway.
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