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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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They inspect your packets. They inspect your packets deeply. Not sure how or if it copes with encryption though. Looking for a plain text mp3 header is one thing, but finding it in an encrypted RAR or in an encrypted bit torrent packet is quite another.
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Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:02 pm |
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pcernie
Legend
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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It's the last bit I was curious about, since I knew they were ways of 'masking' downloads and what have you... It'll be interesting to see what figures they come up with 
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Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:06 pm |
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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Direct downloads ftw, it's faster than waiting for some people who don't want to share to upload Especially when Virgin host Ubuntu ISOs themselves, full speed downloads ftw 
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Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:38 pm |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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And so the game of cat and mouse begins.
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Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:44 pm |
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Nick
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm Posts: 3527 Location: Portsmouth
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Don't most torrent clients encrypt when possible??
I'm pretty sure I've see an option in mine to only accept transfers from clients who support encryption.
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Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:45 pm |
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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No There is the option, but it has to be manually turned on
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Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:55 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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With torrenting, they probably just need the tracking cookie ID to find out what you are sharing.
Here, downloading isn't totally illegal, you shouldn't but given that people can share a "reasonable" number of copies with friends, it is a gray area.
The problem with torrenting is that you are sharing at the same time as downloading, which is illegal, because you can't generally limit the number of people who take bits of the file from your torrent.
The German equivalent of the RIAA used to set up dummy clients which would spy on which nodes were working on a torrent.
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Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:42 am |
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cloaked_wolf
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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So wait...let's say I'm downloading a multi-part rar file and it is password protected, would they be able to see what it is ?
(I'm not too concerned since I'm with another ISP).
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Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:54 am |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Yes and no... They'd probably know what the file is called / what the torrent is called... If the name is "Britney Spears' Greatest Hits", they will probably assume you are downloading something illegal... Using cover names (E.g. sjdier.rar) might work for a while, but the powers that be will probably start downloading and checking such files as well. Likewise, source. If you are downloading from a known "source" of illegal content, then they will know that you are downloading something naughty. They mustn't track every bit, they need to sniff enough packets to workout where it is coming from (known bad?) or what it is called (known bad?) etc.
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Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:01 am |
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HeatherKay
Moderator
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
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Oh goodie. Just as I become a VM customer. It'll be a laugh if they find anything suspicious on me. Richard Branson will get a right flea in his ear, I can tell you.
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Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:47 am |
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nvj1662
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 6:15 pm Posts: 175
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With the greatest respect to your good self Heather, do you really think he'd give a flying fig ?
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Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:11 pm |
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HeatherKay
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
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I don't know. He comes across as a decent sort. A very wealthy sort, admittedly.
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