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Author:  pcernie [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  BNP to put own seals on ballot boxes over fraud fears

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8469695.stm

Quote:
A Labour spokesman said: "We are confident that when the general election comes the British people will clearly reject the disgusting politics of the BNP.

"That will be because their politics are vile and divisive not because of any bizarre paranoia about ballot boxes."


You're only drawing attention to whatever their policies are, you tit...

Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:15 pm ]
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i will not vote for any of the major party's at this GE
if UKIP are not standing in my area then i will vote BNP

maybe when they, the politicians, have to sit with these vile, disgusting bastards they will learn that the rest of the population consider them, the politicians, in the same vile, disgusting way …

Author:  TheFrenchun [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:21 pm ]
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I would never ever consider voting for a national party. they market fear and hatred.
We had once scare in France in 2001 that the FN would win. i think that's enough for a lifetime

Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:25 pm ]
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but did that fear motivate the politicians and the politics of France …

Author:  TheFrenchun [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:39 pm ]
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MrStevenRogers wrote:
but did that fear motivate the politicians and the politics of France …

not really lol , well our current president is so far right he forgets he is a migrant's son :s

Author:  ProfessorF [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:54 pm ]
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MrStevenRogers wrote:
i will not vote for any of the major party's at this GE
if UKIP are not standing in my area then i will vote BNP

maybe when they, the politicians, have to sit with these vile, disgusting bastards they will learn that the rest of the population consider them, the politicians, in the same vile, disgusting way …


So, you want to hand the psychopath a loaded weapon and point them in the direction of the school, in order to improve the education system?
Don't do it. There are plenty of better alternatives than supporting this shower of [LIFTED].

Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:57 pm ]
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Lets face it, they get a few votes from racist nut jobs and the rest from people who are fed up of giving lots of benefits to failed immigrants*. As soon as the main parties clamp down on the illegals, the BNP votes will dry up.

*Legit' immigrants are fine.

Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:01 pm ]
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Griffin is very likely out of his depth as an MEP. he was certainly not up to coping with Question Time.

Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:13 pm ]
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but if the BNP gain MP's then it should shake up the 'so called' establishment

and the establishment need a good shaking

more to the point after the next GE get used to
cuts, cuts and more cuts
taxes, taxes and more taxes

regardless of who wins
if the BNP make them uncomfortable then so be it …

Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:15 pm ]
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TheFrenchun wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
but did that fear motivate the politicians and the politics of France …

not really lol , well our current president is so far right he forgets he is a migrant's son :s


then we in the UK have to take a few more steps
if they will not listen then we will make them hear …

Author:  ProfessorF [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:17 pm ]
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MrStevenRogers wrote:
but if the BNP gain MP's then it should shake up the 'so called' establishment

and the establishment need a good shaking

more to the point after the next GE get used to
cuts, cuts and more cuts
taxes, taxes and more taxes

regardless of who wins
if the BNP make them uncomfortable then so be it …


I quite agree, things need shaking up, but you can't do that by letting the fox into the hen house.
If the BNP are perceived as a popular choice, all that'll breed is more policies like theirs. That's why the 2 main parties suffer from the same problems; chasing the perceived popular notion of the time rather than an ideology.
Yes, there's going to be cuts and more taxation regardless of who wins, but I'd like someone in charge with some basic grasp of where those taxes should be going.

Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:19 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
i will not vote for any of the major party's at this GE
if UKIP are not standing in my area then i will vote BNP

maybe when they, the politicians, have to sit with these vile, disgusting bastards they will learn that the rest of the population consider them, the politicians, in the same vile, disgusting way …


So, you want to hand the psychopath a loaded weapon and point them in the direction of the school, in order to improve the education system?
Don't do it. There are plenty of better alternatives than supporting this shower of [LIFTED].


rest assured i will 'make it so' as its needs to be done
and so will the rest of my family as this has been debated …

Author:  TheFrenchun [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:22 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
but if the BNP gain MP's then it should shake up the 'so called' establishment

and the establishment need a good shaking

more to the point after the next GE get used to
cuts, cuts and more cuts
taxes, taxes and more taxes

regardless of who wins
if the BNP make them uncomfortable then so be it …


I quite agree, things need shaking up, but you can't do that by letting the fox into the hen house.
If the BNP are perceived as a popular choice, all that'll breed is more policies like theirs. That's why the 2 main parties suffer from the same problems; chasing the perceived popular notion of the time rather than an ideology.
Yes, there's going to be cuts and more taxation regardless of who wins, but I'd like someone in charge with some basic grasp of where those taxes should be going.


Well who's the biggest problem, the illegal migrant who shares a flat with 10 others and works under minimum wage to survive or the 16yo girl with 3 kids who get a house and benefits?
Migrants are an issue in most western countries, but i don't think it is the main issue in the UK. Getting the kids to do vocational training, cut down benefits, and get them to work should be the priority of the government. But when a country can't deal with its problem it's a lot easier to find some scapegoats and create fear. (see burqa laws etc in France to hide the growing unemployement rates)

Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:23 pm ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
but if the BNP gain MP's then it should shake up the 'so called' establishment

and the establishment need a good shaking

more to the point after the next GE get used to
cuts, cuts and more cuts
taxes, taxes and more taxes

regardless of who wins
if the BNP make them uncomfortable then so be it …


I quite agree, things need shaking up, but you can't do that by letting the fox into the hen house.
If the BNP are perceived as a popular choice, all that'll breed is more policies like theirs. That's why the 2 main parties suffer from the same problems; chasing the perceived popular notion of the time rather than an ideology.
Yes, there's going to be cuts and more taxation regardless of who wins, but I'd like someone in charge with some basic grasp of where those taxes should be going.


you will need the fox in the hen house to get rid of the chickens
what is left may deserve my vote …

Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:31 pm ]
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TheFrenchun wrote:
ProfessorF wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
but if the BNP gain MP's then it should shake up the 'so called' establishment

and the establishment need a good shaking

more to the point after the next GE get used to
cuts, cuts and more cuts
taxes, taxes and more taxes

regardless of who wins
if the BNP make them uncomfortable then so be it …


I quite agree, things need shaking up, but you can't do that by letting the fox into the hen house.
If the BNP are perceived as a popular choice, all that'll breed is more policies like theirs. That's why the 2 main parties suffer from the same problems; chasing the perceived popular notion of the time rather than an ideology.
Yes, there's going to be cuts and more taxation regardless of who wins, but I'd like someone in charge with some basic grasp of where those taxes should be going.


Well who's the biggest problem, the illegal migrant who shares a flat with 10 others and works under minimum wage to survive or the 16yo girl with 3 kids who get a house and benefits?
Migrants are an issue in most western countries, but i don't think it is the main issue in the UK. Getting the kids to do vocational training, cut down benefits, and get them to work should be the priority of the government. But when a country can't deal with its problem it's a lot easier to find some scapegoats and create fear. (see burqa laws etc in France to hide the growing unemployement rates)


i am not after finding scapegoats only after good Government
and if fear is the key to good Government then lets have some …

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