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Amnesia10
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8513783.stmThat is going to annoy pcernie as he does not do as much as that already, he will not like an increase in hours! 
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AlunD
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am Posts: 7011 Location: Wiltshire
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So less hours same pay  I think not 
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Amnesia10
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I think that the government will have to make up some of the drop in income, like they do in Germany. Though you will still be worse off but less likely to be unemployed.
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:59 am |
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timark_uk
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm Posts: 12143 Location: Belfast
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I suspect the numbers of people with a second job would dramatically increase should this actually happen.
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:16 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Why are these "think tanks" always full of idiots? Who could afford to live on 21 hours wages a week?
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:41 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Ever tried living on unemployment benefit?
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:38 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:40 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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I'll have you know I turn up for my allocated hours - and that's as much as can be expected from 8 until 4, frankly As l3v1ck, was getting at, where do they find these people? Better yet, who's funding them? 
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:49 pm |
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big_D
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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We don't get any make up for loss of income, if your job has fewer hours. Some companies currently have "short work", which means that employees on a full contract only work 4 days and they get unemployment benefit for the 5th day. But those with 400€ jobs, halbe Stelle (half a job) or drei Viertel Stelle (3/4 job) don't get any extra benefits.
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:03 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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LMFAO. I just did a 77-hr week and this week I'm doing at least 56hours. There are no way enough staff to meet a 21-hour week. They'd have to shut the hospital and leave the patients unattended for this to be successful.
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:50 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Imagine if the UK had signed up to the working time directive of a maximum of 48 hours per week? 
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:43 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Some such as the Institute for Fiscal Studies are independent and get their funding from members of which I am one, some from corporate memberships for which they get the institutes publications, and they are sponsored to do research by government departments but they are independent of the departments. Many of these think tanks are little more than lobby groups for certain interests. The Adam Smith Institute are for smaller government and privatisation's etc, they get funds from right wing backers as does the Tax Payers Alliance.
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cloaked_wolf
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Although it sounds excessive, if you average my working time over the entire rota, it works out to an average of 45 hours. This includes two weeks of leave which really brings down the average. There are ways to get round all "limits". Commonest way is to average the working time over two weeks rather than one week, so instead of working for six days continuously and then the seventh day off, you work continuously for twelve days and then have a weekend off.
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eddie543
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:53 pm Posts: 447 Location: Manchester
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It's a ridiculous proposition on all fronts and simply doesn't make sense.
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:56 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I am doing at the moment.  Thankfully my wife is allowed to work more than twenty one hours a week.
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