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Author:  pcernie [ Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Bragg in banker bonuses protest

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edi ... 513936.stm

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After the event, the singer-songwriter said: "I'm doing it to draw attention to the fact the bankers seem to think it's business as usual now.

"They're starting already to talk about paying the kind of excessive bonuses that got us into all this trouble in the first place, whilst the rest of us are being softened up for public service cuts.

"Considering that this hole in the public purse has been caused by the bailout for the banks, the bankers should be leading the way in making economies."

RBS, which is 84% owned by the taxpayer following a string of bail-outs, is expected to pay millions of pounds in bonuses to its investment bankers this year.

Bragg, who released the hit album Talking With The Taxman About Poetry in 1986, is urging people to send letters or e-mails to the chancellor as part of his online campaign.

Asked previously about the prospect of going to jail for refusing to pay his taxes, Bragg said: "I'm hoping it won't come to that.

"This is to draw attention to the issue. Either we own 84% of the company or the entire thing is a sham.

"I'm fed up with no-one doing anything about it."

Author:  HeatherKay [ Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bragg in banker bonuses protest

More power to his elbow, I say.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:22 pm ]
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The problem is they have absolutely no reason to care at all what he or anybody else thinks. Until someone with some actual power stamps on them hard, they'll carry on just as before. You can't really expect people who have spent their whole working lives in a business entirely based around avarice and the acquisition of undeserved wealth to just suddenly grow consciences, surely?

Jon

Author:  Spreadie [ Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bragg in banker bonuses protest

84% owned by the public.

Fine, pay them a bonus, if there is anything left after each and every British citizen is paid a dividend.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bragg in banker bonuses protest

Spreadie wrote:
84% owned by the public.

Fine, pay them a bonus, if there is anything left after each and every British citizen is paid a dividend.

The government will collect that on our behalf and lose it in general taxation so do not expect to see a penny of it. Ever.

The government should be much bolder and break RBS up. They could break it up into all the brands that it took over. Coutts the private bank could quite easily be made into a separate bank, even privatised. All branches in England and Wales could become Natwest, and all those in Scotland RBS. Then the RBS can either be transferred to the Scottish Parliament and sold off or run as a state bank. Nat West could itself be broken up into regional banks resurrecting some of the old bank names like National Provincial Bank and Westminster Bank. The investment banks could be sold off or liquidated with any losses coming out of the directors pension pot.

Then tell Lloyds to break itself up or have the tax payer do it. Give them a dead line during which no bonuses could be paid. That would get the bank to ditch the investment bank arm very quickly before they walked.

Author:  Nick [ Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bragg in banker bonuses protest

Amnesia, I'm pretty sure they are breaking up RBS - I remember reading something about it in the news.

As for bonuses, I don't see a problem with them being paid.

It's in our interests for RBS to perform well. To perform well they need good people working for them, and if you don't pay them enough they will leave.

Obviously, set the staff clear goals and only pay the bonus if they are reached. If the staff are performing, why not pay them for it? It's a win-win.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bragg in banker bonuses protest

Nick wrote:
Amnesia, I'm pretty sure they are breaking up RBS - I remember reading something about it in the news.

As for bonuses, I don't see a problem with them being paid.

It's in our interests for RBS to perform well. To perform well they need good people working for them, and if you don't pay them enough they will leave.

Obviously, set the staff clear goals and only pay the bonus if they are reached. If the staff are performing, why not pay them for it? It's a win-win.

Yes but we are not really talking about the high street banker. The problem is that the bonus is taking a large share of the total profits and so there is little left for the public or shareholder.

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