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Author:  pcernie [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Girls and boys being sexualised at early age
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/child ... warns.html

Just for a kick-off, this is the Big Brother psychologist we're talking about here ;)

Secondly, the Telegraph has obviously cherry-picked it's info, but still...

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She said: “Little boys are always told ‘aren’t you clever, aren’t you strong’. Little girls are told ‘aren’t you pretty?’ even in 2010.

“They are adhering to what society expects and internalising behaviours.”


Society does what society does, that's kinda why it's collectively called society to my mind... And what's wrong with girls being told they're pretty? It's not like it's always one or the other in the examples given, and how many young boys are told how nice they look by those around them, like their parents, extended family? :roll:

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Dr Papadopoulos cited the example of the computer game Miss Bimbo, where the aim of the game is to accumulate boob jobs and marry a billionaire.


And? What about the strong (in every way) female characters in other games, in every genre?

Just looking at my own game shelf, there's strong female characters in: Uncharted 1+2, Batman, inFamous, Tomb Raider...

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The report, due out later this month, will suggest imposing age restrictions on lads’ magazine such as Zoo and Nuts and introducing a symbol to signify when a image in a magazine has been airbrushed.


Sounds like the thin edge of the wedge to me - everybody knows governments of every hue are enthrall to the media. Not to mention they'll either sink such mags completely in the long run, or make them more popular than they've ever been (I believe their sales aren't great anyway) :)

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Dr Papadopoulos told the Times Educational Supplement: “It’s a drip-drip effect. Look at porn stars and look at how the average girls looks now.


What? :lol:

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“We are hypersexualising girls, telling them their desirability relies on being desired.

“They want to please at any cost.


Any proof of that or is that just a generalization? And are we really suggesting that boys and girls of whatever age don't get the horn like their peers did? Development is all relative, not to mention girls/women are often more interested in being in competition with each other.

There's no doubt young girls are wearing racier outfits and so on, but hey, that's why they have parents/guardians, and it's not like you could ever legislate against it without making government even more of a joke than it already is, so...

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“And we are hypermasculinising boys. Many feel they can’t live up to the porn ideal, sleeping with lots of women.”


What is this woman's obsession with linking kids to porn, or vice versa? :oops:

And has she seen how effeminate some young lads are now? Christ, have you seen some of the straight men on the high street these days? And I'm talking about Belfast for one instance :lol:

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A Home Office spokeswoman said: "We know that many parents are concerned about the pressures that their teenage and even pre-teen daughters are under to appear sexually available at a younger and younger age, and about the negative impact this may be having on boys too."


As above, good luck doing anything meaningful about it :roll:

This just seems like another celebrity appointment from our style over substance government (Tanya Byron, Alan Sugar etc) :evil:
Author:  belchingmatt [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:50 pm ]
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Had to find a picture of her to see who the hell she was. So there she is with her daughter who has long hair and wears a pink dress. So once her daughter appears androdgynous, maybe then others will listen to her.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:05 pm ]
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Dr Papadopoulos told the Times Educational Supplement: “It’s a drip-drip effect. Look at porn stars and look at how the average girls looks now.

So is she saying that young girls watch porn films and aspire to having a tramp stamp?

I would partly blame girl magazines. Have you ever read the contents of some of them? My ex stopped our daughters reading them because they had articles about "how to please your boyfriend in bed" These were Swedish teen magazines.

There is the general media presentation of women in general. In Italy it is even more extreme with "Got tits become an MP!"

Then you have the clothes that parents buy for their kids. I saw an ad for high heels for toddlers. They cannot even walk yet and parents are buying this rubbish.

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“We are hypersexualising girls, telling them their desirability relies on being desired.

“They want to please at any cost.

I would put that down to what they are exposed to from friends peers and family.

That is also partly down to bad parenting. By not giving girls enough self confidence to realise that looks are not everything.

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A Home Office spokeswoman said: "We know that many parents are concerned about the pressures that their teenage and even pre-teen daughters are under to appear sexually available at a younger and younger age, and about the negative impact this may be having on boys too."

What are parents doing about this? Why don't they write to complain to the company selling the merchandise or the company advertising it? The solutions start at home.
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:13 pm ]
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Society is partly to blame - when a "preteen" wears a t-shirt with "pornstar" emblazoned across the front, who bought it? Most likely the parents.

As previously mentioned in many threads, a lot of the problem is with parents, or more accurately, the lack of parenting. G-strings for preteens is too OTT. The market produces these things, parents buy them for their kids and so the market produces more and more.

I also blame and hate the rise of the wastes of space like Paris Hilton and co. People who are famous for basically being arseholes.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:44 pm ]
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cloaked_wolf wrote:
Society is partly to blame - when a "preteen" wears a t-shirt with "pornstar" emblazoned across the front, who bought it? Most likely the parents.

As previously mentioned in many threads, a lot of the problem is with parents, or more accurately, the lack of parenting. G-strings for preteens is too OTT. The market produces these things, parents buy them for their kids and so the market produces more and more.

I also blame and hate the rise of the wastes of space like Paris Hilton and co. People who are famous for basically being arseholes.

Bad parenting in a number of forms and society buying crap celebrity magazines . Says it all really. :cry:
Author:  jonbwfc [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:56 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
Just for a kick-off, this is the Big Brother psychologist we're talking about here ;)

I don't really have an opinion on the topic under discussion - don't have kids, don't want them - but i do have to defend Linda Papadopoulos. She's a fully qualified clinical psychologist and she's done published research - I've read some of it. She's not some actress they've put in a lab coat, she's the real deal. The fact she's also something of a media darling is probably down to the fact she's quite good-looking but it doesn't deflect from the fact she's perfectly qualified to be raising issues like this from an authoritative and academic perspective.

Mind, I always said the idea that there was anything useful to be learned psychologically speaking from BB was bunk and I do think she's earning money for old rope if she's on the show, but if I was offered a nice wage to sit in a studio and state the obvious, I'd probably take it too.

Jon
Author:  pcernie [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:28 pm ]
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Fair enough, it's just IME of seeing her on TV she's either stating the obvious or having what appears to be knee-jerk reactions to the sort of things mentioned above :|
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