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Author:  pcernie [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 ... tony-blair

Quote:
Rawnsley reveals that Brown rang Blair while he was staying with the Queen at ­Balmoral. He was furious that Alan ­Milburn, Blair's close ally, had written a piece supporting the prime minister's right to stay at No 10.

Rawnsley writes: "The chancellor's fury was titanically demented even by his standards. 'You put [LIFTED] Milburn up to it,' Brown raged down the phone. 'This is factionalism! This is Trotskyism! It's [LIFTED] Trotskyism!' Blair was nonplussed. He had not even seen the article. After the call, he then read it and phoned Milburn to say it was excellent. They laughed about Brown's hysterical reaction." Drawing on witness accounts from within No 10 and the Treasury, Rawnsley also discloses that Balls, in effect, forced Brown into pressing on with the coup. At one meeting at the Treasury, Brown said he needed more time to think, but Balls interrupted: "It's too late. It's all in place. It is going to happen."


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  veato [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
I cant vote Labour. I just cannot let this guy hold onto any power. If Labour were to change leaders before the election then I'd reconsider. I know you vote for the party and the policies and not the leader but they come hand in hand. A vote for Labour's policies and party is a vote towards keeping that git in No.10
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
veato wrote:
I cant vote Labour. I just cannot let this guy hold onto any power. If Labour were to change leaders before the election then I'd reconsider. I know you vote for the party and the policies and not the leader but they come hand in hand. A vote for Labour's policies and party is a vote towards keeping that git in No.10

Yes Gordon is now a liability but until he goes many will not vote for him. The other side of the equation is that the Tories still are as nasty as ever and it is a choice between two bad options. Gordon or Dave? Neither are likely to take the country forward much. Though I think we need to know who could replace Gordon.
Author:  davrosG5 [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
At the moment it's distinctly possible Mr. Brown will be replaced by a Milliband (whichever one looks slightly less like a potato), although he's obviously not about to take over the leadership just in time to catastrophically loose the election.
I suspect that if (more likely when) Labour loose the election there will be a leadership contest fairly quickly afterwards to try and make the party electable again.

Back to the story though. I do feel some sympathy for Gordon Brown. Blair managed to set him up for a fairly spectacular fall when he left (although the financial stuff was obviously all down to Gordon).
Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
davrosG5 wrote:
Back to the story though. I do feel some sympathy for Gordon Brown. Blair managed to set him up for a fairly spectacular fall when he left (although the financial stuff was obviously all down to Gordon).


I think Blair knew it was coming, which is why he stepped down when he did. You may not like him, but Blair certainly has the knack for spotting something on the horizon and reacting in a way which will be self-advantagoeus.
Author:  AlunD [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
Amnesia10 wrote:
Though I think we need to know who could replace Gordon.


The Dark Lord would replace him Who else :? :D
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
davrosG5 wrote:
At the moment it's distinctly possible Mr. Brown will be replaced by a Milliband (whichever one looks slightly less like a potato), although he's obviously not about to take over the leadership just in time to catastrophically loose the election.
I suspect that if (more likely when) Labour loose the election there will be a leadership contest fairly quickly afterwards to try and make the party electable again.

Neither Milliband are any more electable. Far too slimy for my taste. Plus too right wing as well for many in the party.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
AlunD wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
Though I think we need to know who could replace Gordon.


The Dark Lord would replace him Who else :? :D

Just what the Tories want for a landslide.
Author:  AlunD [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
Amnesia10 wrote:
AlunD wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
Though I think we need to know who could replace Gordon.


The Dark Lord would replace him Who else :? :D

Just what the Tories want for a landslide.


If they have a land slide and he hasn't replaced Gordon then I reckon he will switch sides. :roll:
Author:  davrosG5 [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
Amnesia10 wrote:
davrosG5 wrote:
At the moment it's distinctly possible Mr. Brown will be replaced by a Milliband (whichever one looks slightly less like a potato), although he's obviously not about to take over the leadership just in time to catastrophically loose the election.
I suspect that if (more likely when) Labour loose the election there will be a leadership contest fairly quickly afterwards to try and make the party electable again.

Neither Milliband are any more electable. Far too slimy for my taste. Plus too right wing as well for many in the party.


So, different from Tony Blair how exactly?
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
davrosG5 wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
davrosG5 wrote:
At the moment it's distinctly possible Mr. Brown will be replaced by a Milliband (whichever one looks slightly less like a potato), although he's obviously not about to take over the leadership just in time to catastrophically loose the election.
I suspect that if (more likely when) Labour loose the election there will be a leadership contest fairly quickly afterwards to try and make the party electable again.

Neither Milliband are any more electable. Far too slimy for my taste. Plus too right wing as well for many in the party.


So, different from Tony Blair how exactly?

Same politically as Tony, but as slimey as slugs. I never warmed to Tony I always thought he was in politics for what he could get out of it, and not for any true beliefs.
Author:  eddie543 [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
davrosG5 wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
davrosG5 wrote:
At the moment it's distinctly possible Mr. Brown will be replaced by a Milliband (whichever one looks slightly less like a potato), although he's obviously not about to take over the leadership just in time to catastrophically loose the election.
I suspect that if (more likely when) Labour loose the election there will be a leadership contest fairly quickly afterwards to try and make the party electable again.

Neither Milliband are any more electable. Far too slimy for my taste. Plus too right wing as well for many in the party.


So, different from Tony Blair how exactly?

In that they are bland hence the popular "millibland." blair at least had charisma about him.
I think this explains why Millibands, Mandelson and Cameron are all dangerous and sort of how this conversation has gone:

Caeser:- Let me have men about me that are fat;
Sleek-headed men and such as sleep o' nights:
Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look;
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.

ANTONY
Fear him not, Caesar; he's not dangerous;
He is a noble Roman and well given

CAESAR
Would he were fatter! But I fear him not:
Yet if my name were liable to fear,
I do not know the man I should avoid
So soon as that spare Cassius. He reads much;
He is a great observer and he looks
Quite through the deeds of men: he loves no plays,
As thou dost, Antony; he hears no music;
Seldom he smiles, and smiles in such a sort
As if he mock'd himself and scorn'd his spirit
That could be moved to smile at any thing.
Such men as he be never at heart's ease
Whiles they behold a greater than themselves,
And therefore are they very dangerous.
I rather tell thee what is to be fear'd
Than what I fear; for always I am Caesar.
Come on my right hand, for this ear is deaf,
And tell me truly what thou think'st of him.
Author:  gavomatic57 [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
Amnesia10 wrote:
Same politically as Tony, but as slimey as slugs.


A tactic that seems to be working for the Tory scum. Slimey is in apparently.
Author:  veato [ Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gordon Brown shouted 'you ruined my life' at Tony Blair
eddie543 wrote:
Come on my right hand


I knew they were close but..... :shock:
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