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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8540651.stm
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
Serves him right. He deliberately broke the law and encouraged other to do so too.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
It was inevitable after he failed to pay the fines. Though I hope that he realises 6 months inside as a smoking martyr will not really help his cred inside gaol. :o
Author:  Linux_User [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
The ban is ridiculous - whatever happened to freedom of choice?
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
Linux_User wrote:
The ban is ridiculous - whatever happened to freedom of choice?


+1
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:47 am ]
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TBH he knew he was breaking the law and the only reason he did it was because he didn't think he would go to jail. For this reason alone he is a moron.
Author:  AlunD [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:20 am ]
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cloaked_wolf wrote:
TBH he knew he was breaking the law and the only reason he did it was because he didn't think he would go to jail. For this reason alone he is a moron.

+1
MrStevenRogers wrote:
Linux_User wrote:
The ban is ridiculous - whatever happened to freedom of choice?


+1

+1
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
MrStevenRogers wrote:
Linux_User wrote:
The ban is ridiculous - whatever happened to freedom of choice?


+1

-1
You can choose to go outside and not pollute my airspace/hair/clothes etc with your filthy stench.
Author:  davrosG5 [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
l3v1ck wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
Linux_User wrote:
The ban is ridiculous - whatever happened to freedom of choice?


+1

-1
You can choose to go outside and not pollute my airspace/hair/clothes etc with your filthy stench.


-1 here to.
Freedom of choice for the smoker means no freedom of choice for non-smoking patrons of the establishment. If you want to smoke then you can go outside and a lot of pubs provide special facilities for you to do so if you wish.
If the ban on smoking inside had been brought in when a significant proportion of the population still smoked then it could be argued the other way. As it is smokers are now a minority of the population and their activities haven't been banned they've been redirected into a area where they are less likely to cause harm to others.
Author:  Fogmeister [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
davrosG5 wrote:
-1 here to.
Freedom of choice for the smoker means no freedom of choice for non-smoking patrons of the establishment. If you want to smoke then you can go outside and a lot of pubs provide special facilities for you to do so if you wish.
If the ban on smoking inside had been brought in when a significant proportion of the population still smoked then it could be argued the other way. As it is smokers are now a minority of the population and their activities haven't been banned they've been redirected into a area where they are less likely to cause harm to others.

+1
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
Fogmeister wrote:
davrosG5 wrote:
-1 here to.
Freedom of choice for the smoker means no freedom of choice for non-smoking patrons of the establishment. If you want to smoke then you can go outside and a lot of pubs provide special facilities for you to do so if you wish.
If the ban on smoking inside had been brought in when a significant proportion of the population still smoked then it could be argued the other way. As it is smokers are now a minority of the population and their activities haven't been banned they've been redirected into a area where they are less likely to cause harm to others.

+1

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Author:  AlunD [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
l3v1ck wrote:
You can choose to go outside and not pollute my airspace/hair/clothes etc with your filthy stench.


You can choose to go out side and be spared the risk of contact with smokers or go to another pub. :D

It should be down to teh business to decide to allow it or not. IMHO.

ps I am a non smoker but really have an issue with this.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
AlunD wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
You can choose to go outside and not pollute my airspace/hair/clothes etc with your filthy stench.
You can choose to go out side and be spared the risk of contact with smokers or go to another pub. :D
No I couldn't. If there was no smoking ban, all pubs would be smoke filled. And I couldn't go outside a lot of the time as many in town pubs don't let you take drinks outside. Plus I'd have to breath in your smog while buying the drink in the first place.
Author:  big_D [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:41 am ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Fogmeister wrote:
davrosG5 wrote:
-1 here to.
Freedom of choice for the smoker means no freedom of choice for non-smoking patrons of the establishment. If you want to smoke then you can go outside and a lot of pubs provide special facilities for you to do so if you wish.
If the ban on smoking inside had been brought in when a significant proportion of the population still smoked then it could be argued the other way. As it is smokers are now a minority of the population and their activities haven't been banned they've been redirected into a area where they are less likely to cause harm to others.

+1

+1

+1
Author:  AlunD [ Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex-landlord jailed over smoking ban at Bolton pubs
l3v1ck wrote:
You can choose to go outside and not pollute my airspace/hair/clothes etc with your filthy stench.

l3v1ck wrote:
And I couldn't go outside a lot of the time as many in town pubs don't let you take drinks outside.
But you expect smokers to ? :? Sorry contradicting your self there I think

l3v1ck wrote:
Plus I'd have to breath in your smog while buying the drink in the first place.
AlunD wrote:
ps I am a non smoker.
No you wouldn't as I already stated I'm a non smoker. :roll:
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