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pcernie
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8540481.stmI'll be interested to see how this does given time, as will other parts of the UK I imagine 
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rustybucket
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Very sad indeed. I'm emigrating first chance I get. *shakes head*
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Linux_User
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Wait wait wait, if I understand these proposals correctly, parents will basically be able to get a CRB check done on anyone who works with their children?
Whatever happened to reasonable suspicion? If I'm interpreting this proposal correctly then I am completely against the idea and am appalled by it.
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Coref
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Anyone fancy a bet if it'll lead to paediatricians having their house attacked again?
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pcernie
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This seems to be handing that to the parents, which is why I'll be interested to see how it turns out 
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Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:36 pm |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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That should be nobody as they'd fail the checks before they got the job.
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davrosG5
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So, how long until 'reasonable suspicion' is more like 'I'm curious to see if that person has any skeletons in their closet'. I'm all for protecting children from paedophiles but that's rightly a job for the police, courts and the prison system (if we had faith in them). Letting paranoid parents instigate CRB style checks on everybody that might come into contact with their kids is shear lunacy. l3v1ck my understanding is that this isn't just employees or volunteers that will come into contact with the kids but basically anyone who can come into contact with the kids. So you could check your next door neighbour or the single person who lives over the road.
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pcernie
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That would be the bit I'm interested in  , and especially how the police will deal with the requests, 'The police turned down my request and the guy across the street turned out to have child porn on his computer!' etc 
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Linux_User
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If this policy really goes ahead then not only would I like to see limits on requests that parents can put in, but also parents go to prison if it's found that the request was put in maliciously.
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Amnesia10
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I think that if you checked out a partner then the relationship cannot be that good. There do need to be safeguards.
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Linux_User
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IMO the system should not exist at all.
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Amnesia10
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I do agree, but if there is such a system it has to have safeguards or the whole system will become a legal minefield.
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veato
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When my kid goes to nursery won't CRB checks have already been done on the employees by the employer?
I dont know how far they intend to take this but I think I'd want to know if my kid was at a nursery/school/youth club that employed a (child?)sex offender. At least that way I can simply make the choice as to whether I want my child in their care or not. I dont think thats unreasonble. I guess the issue though is what some parents might then do with that information though.
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Amnesia10
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Yes but in a nursery or school environment they will have all been cleared to work there or else they would have left. This legislation is for single mums to check their prospective partner out for any such concerns. While commendable it does beg what about the mother keeping an eye out for any suspicious behaviour? Just to rely on a records check is not really good enough.
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veato
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Single mums checking partners? What if the mother is the offender! Who's checking her.
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