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pcernie
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cloaked_wolf
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I honestly thought this was the curreny accepted working theory for the last ten years or so.
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pcernie
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I think it was the weight of some of the counter theories that led to this outcome. And check out the BBC version of the story with this cool pic:   |  |  |  | Quote: An international panel of experts has strongly endorsed evidence that a space impact was behind the mass extinction event that killed off the dinosaurs.
They reached the consensus after conducting the most wide-ranging analysis yet of the evidence.
Writing in Science journal, they rule out alternative theories such as large-scale volcanism.
The analysis has been discussed at the 41st Lunar and Planetary Science Conference (LPSC) in the US.
A panel of 41 international experts reviewed 20 years' worth of research to determine the cause of the Cretaceous-Tertiary (K-T) mass extinction, around 65 million years ago.
The extinction wiped out more than half of all species on the planet, including the dinosaurs, bird-like pterosaurs and large marine reptiles, clearing the way for mammals to become the dominant species on Earth.
Their review of the evidence shows that the extinction was caused by a massive asteroid or comet smashing into Earth at Chicxulub on Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula.
'Global winter'
When the 10km-15km space rock struck the Yucatan, the explosive energy released was equivalent to 100 trillion tonnes of TNT - over a billion times more explosive than the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The huge crater that remains from the event is some 180km in diameter and surrounded by a circular fault about 240km in diameter.
"You can actually trace debris right up to the rim of the crater from across the world," Co-author Dr David Kring, from the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, told BBC News.
"You can start in Europe, cross the Atlantic and it just thickens as you approach the Chicxulub impact crater."
In the new study, scientists examined the work of palaeontologists, geochemists, climate modellers, geophysicists and sedimentologists who have been gathering evidence about the K-T extinction.
They conclude that the Chicxulub space impact is the only plausible explanation for the devastation evident in geological records.
The initial impact would have triggered large-scale fires, huge earthquakes, and continental landslides which generated tsunamis.
Dr Gareth Collins, one of the review's co-authors from Imperial College London, said the asteroid hit Earth "20 times faster than a speeding bullet".
He added: "The explosion of hot rock and gas would have looked like a huge ball of fire on the horizon, grilling any living creature in the immediate vicinity that couldn't find shelter."
Dr Joanna Morgan, another co-author from Imperial, commented: "The final nail in the coffin for the dinosaurs happened when blasted material was ejected at high velocity into the atmosphere. This shrouded the planet in darkness and caused a global winter, killing off many species that couldn't adapt to this hellish environment."
The review confirms that a unique layer of debris ejected from a crater is compositionally linked to the Mexican crater and is also coincident with rocks associated at the Cretaceous-Tertiary (K-T) boundary.
The team also says that an abundance of shocked quartz in rock layers across the world at the K-T boundary lends further weight to conclusions that a massive meteorite impact happened at the time of the mass extinction. This form of the mineral occurs when rocks have been hit very quickly by a massive force. It is only found at nuclear explosion sites and at asteroid impact sites.
"Combining all available data from different science disciplines led us to conclude that a large asteroid impact 65 million years ago in modern day Mexico was the major cause of the mass extinctions," said author Dr Peter Schulte, assistant professor at the University of Erlangen in Germany.
David Kring explained: "I have been invited to give colloquia at a number of universities across North America and I had always been surprised by the number of people who didn't think the connection was as firm as it was.
"I think it was very important for this distinguished panel of experts from around the world who have seen the evidence from their own geographic quarter to debate the issue and come to a final resolution. I think it is that international consensus that is so important in this case."
Volcanic origin?
Scientists have previously argued about whether the extinction was caused by a space impact or by volcanic activity in the Deccan Traps in India, where there were a series of super-volcanic eruptions that lasted approximately 1.5 million years.
These eruptions spewed more than 1,000,000 cubic kilometres of basaltic lava across the Deccan Traps - enough to fill the Black Sea twice. These were thought to have caused a cooling of the atmosphere and acid rain on a global scale.
Despite evidence for relatively active volcanism in the Deccan Traps at the time, marine and land ecosystems showed only minor changes within the 500,000 years before the time of the K-T mass extinction.
Furthermore, computer models and observational data suggest the release of gases such as sulphur into the atmosphere after each volcanic eruption in the Deccan Traps would have had a short-lived effect on the planet.
The panel also discounted previous studies that suggested the Chicxulub impact occurred 300,000 years prior to the mass extinction event.
Scientists estimate that this type of impact occurs on average about once every 100 million years; about five have occurred during the evolution of complex life on Earth.
The importance of Chicxulub was cemented by the announcement in 1991 of the discovery of "shocked quartz" - one of the tell-tale signs of an impact - in a 1.6km-deep drill hole from the crater.
David Kring, Alan Hildebrand and William Boynton presented their results at that year's LPSC, then held at Nasa's Johnson Space Center in Houston.
Dr Kring explained that he was "elated" with the consensus about the link between Chicxulub and the K-T mass extinction. |  |  |  |  |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8550504.stm 
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I must have been living in a time warp and I've got all these DVDs from the future, you can look forward to some cool disaster movies based on this. Armageddon with Bruce Willis is one to look out for, or the more devastating Deep Impact. I also predict a plethora of TV movies on the subject. 
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Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:41 am |
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pcernie
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I was actually thinking along those lines myself - do we (by which I probably mean the Yanks  ) have a plan to take on any potential kick-ass asteroid(s)? 
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Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:16 am |
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big_D
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NASA have a budget for it, but it allows them to cover 1% of the sky and "Mr. President, it is a big ass sky!" 
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Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:19 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Yes though some thing that the Deccan Flats eruption weakened many environments before the meteor impact. The killer blow still being the meteor. The evidence apparently showing that dinosaurs were going extinct before the impact. This does not change much for most of us. Except maybe those crazy religious nuts who think that dinosaurs were still around when humans were. 
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AlunD
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They are still around their called Birds 
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Amnesia10
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I was thinking more along the lines of those who think that dinosaurs like T Rex lived alongside mankind, and that the world is only a few thousand years old. 
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belchingmatt
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 Had to be done. 
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cloaked_wolf
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If dinosaurs were around at the time of Man, why isn't it in the Bible?
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Yes but the fundamentalists will say because they had no part in the Bible.
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belchingmatt
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Amnesia10
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The dinosaurs were simply too big to get on Noah's Ark, but they can not say that otherwise the infallible God will be in trouble for giving Noah the wrong dimensions. 
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belchingmatt
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Perhaps there was a date mixup. 
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