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Author: | pcernie [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:22 am ] | |||||||||
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8556195.stm
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Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans |
There are two elements to this story. One is law abiding dog owners and then you have the unlawful kind. Why should a law abiding dog owner whose dog is no trouble at all be treated like a gang member who trains their dog to attack people have to pay extra for the few who break the law. All dogs and pets for that matter should have pet insurance and then it could be added that pet insurance have additional cove to cover third parties. That would cover snakes and other animals that could cause injury. For good pet owners it will probably be a safety net in case Fido snaps at someone and they sue. The courts also have to accept some responsibility in banning pet ownership and not for a few years but life, in the case of serious abuse. It should even cover associating with pets so that they cannot just train attack dogs for others. Also such cases should be reported to the insurance industry so that you cannot get insurance and hence would be unable to get a pet. Also if people come in to contact with the law bannng gag members from owning pets. That would then give the police to the power to intervene. |
Author: | rustybucket [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:48 pm ] |
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Dogs should be like shotguns - you should have to demonstrate physical & mental competence as well as good stewardship and a reasonable requirement for ownership. Maybe 4x4s should be the same. ![]() |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:56 pm ] |
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Stupid idea. The only people who'll pay are responsible dog owners who currently control their pets. People who have illegal breeds or who don't control their dogs just wont pay. Yet again Labour have found a way to punish the innocent without punishing the guilty. |
Author: | paulzolo [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:10 pm ] | |||||||||
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Sadly, you are right. I know a few responsible dog owners, and they no doubt will cough up. But there are many who have less than perfect control over their dogs who will not bother. |
Author: | Linux_User [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:13 pm ] |
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So the cost of pet insurance will rise then. ![]() |
Author: | JJW009 [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:42 pm ] | |||||||||
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If they don't cough up then the police will have the power to do something about it. I imagine uninsured dogs could be impounded, much like uninsured cars. If they're chipped, then it would only take a moment to check. |
Author: | big_D [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:45 pm ] | |||||||||
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You have to have personal liability insurance here, if you have a dog. Otherwise it is just strongly recommended, given that a friend's kids decided to draw on her ex-boyfriend's car, with sharp stones, it is probably a good thing to have insurance. ![]()
And your dog pulls the lead out of your hand and runs into the road, causing a multi-car pile up. How are you going to pay for that? ![]() Or the dog kills the neighbour's cat as it runs across the garden? Or you visit a friend and the dog knocks over that priceless Ming vase? (Or you knock it over for that matter.) Violent dogs is one thing, but accidents are another. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:14 pm ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I did think that a third party element added to pet insurance was a good idea. That would cover that.
The cat committed suicide. If you ran into a marked minefield you would not blame the land owner? ![]()
Again covered by the idea of third party insurance on pet cover.
True. |
Author: | JJW009 [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:37 pm ] | |||||||||
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If the cat was trespassing on private property then it's the cat owners fault. If cats were kept properly under control, there would be a lot less risk to the cat and a lot less aggravation for the long suffering neighbours. You wouldn't let your children or dog climb over the fence into your neighbours garden to sh!t on the lawn and tease their animals, would you? If it's your cat, then you are responsible for ensuring it keeps out of trouble. If you can't look after it responsibly, you shouldn't have one. It really annoys me when pet owners expect everyone else to mind their damned menace of a car-scratching bird-murdering garden-defiling parasite-carrying bag of allergens. |
Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:25 pm ] |
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Have a read of Jeremy Clarkson's column in the Sunday Times. He talks about how 95% pay for the stupidity of 5%. clicky Accidents happen. Fair enough. But like the banning of handguns, only the criminals would not bother with inzurance and they are the ones most likely to have vicious dogs. |
Author: | veato [ Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:02 am ] |
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People who are currently irresponsible with their dogs will not get them insured. They wont. And while I'm here I'm also tired of going to the vets and paying out whilst the benefit class get the treatment for sod all. If you cant afford to look after your pet then you [LIFTED] shouldnt be allowed one. [/rant] |
Author: | hifidelity2 [ Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:47 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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Yer Right ! – I’m sure the police have more important things to do than go around asking to see your Dogs Papers Even on things like cars that have to display a number plate and a visible tax disk there are still millions of uninsured drivers and its easy for the police to catch them with the cameras linked to the DVLA and the Insurance companies databases I’m sorry but as said above the responsible owner will pay up and the average lout will not and knows that they will never be caught All it will do is set up a government dept costing us millions and allow an MP to give a high paid job to a mate |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:00 am ] | |||||||||
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The police will stop dog owners as it's an easy way to boost their numbers. Go to a park where people walk their dogs, stop every one, catch one of two out, that's two more crimes reported and solved. Much easier than catching burglars. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:34 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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Plus safer. Law abiding citizens do not carry weapons and are unlikely to be a threat. |
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