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Couples are delaying getting married and starting families because they cannot afford to buy their own homes, according to a YouGov survey commissioned by a housing campaign group.

Four out of 10 young adults have said they will not settle down until they can buy their own house.

A further 7% of people aged between 18 and 30 said they had put off marriage because they could not afford to buy a property or were saving up for one.

"We are in danger of locking a whole generation of young people out of the housing market because prices are simply too high," said David Orr, chief executive of the National Housing Federation, which commissioned the survey of 1,096 young adults who did not own their own home.

"A chronic shortage of new affordable homes has sent prices rocketing over the last decade, well out of reach of the vast majority of first-time buyers."

Almost two-thirds of those questioned said high prices were to blame for them being unable to buy a house. Just over 40% said banks had refused to offer a mortgage. One in five said uncertainty over the economy was another key factor in their decision.

A record 4.5 million people are on housing waiting lists in England. The federation says rising unemployment and repossessions have fuelled demand for affordable housing during the economic downturn. Despite the growing need for cheaper homes, housebuilding has fallen to its lowest level since 1923. The average first-time buyer's home costs around £135,000, more than 4.2 times the average wage. In 1990 the average was around £46,000, 2.5 times the average wage.

Damian Ross, a 33-year-old IT consultant in Leeds who proposed to his girlfriend two years ago, said they had decided not to get married until they can afford their own home.

"We only want a modest wedding but feel we can't justify the cost of that until we have saved up enough to buy somewhere to live together," he said. "But the cost of a home seems to constantly soar upwards while our savings, with interest rates so low, seem to shrink. We want to be responsible but in attempting that, I feel like our lives have been put on hold."

The federation has said the government will struggle to build even half its target of 1m affordable homes by 2020 if the housing budget is not exempted from public spending.

The group has called on the three main political parties to grant housing the same "untouchable" status as health, education and crimefighting, and to protect it from spending cuts in order to address what it says is a crisis.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/ma ... s-marriage

It was clearly a wide-ranging survey by a neutral party ;) , but it does raise some interesting issues...

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Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:35 pm
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Well apart from the people who (may) have children first to get a house. ;)

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Well apart from the people who (may) have children first to get a house. ;)


Quite :D

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Well apart from the people who (may) have children first to get a house. ;)

That was my first thought as well.

What is wrong with renting? :?

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What is wrong with renting? :?


Its a constant waste of money paying someone for something you will never own...its what we will have to do because we can't afford to buy yet.

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What is wrong with renting? :?


Don't start that one in here. I've been down that road before. You might as well say 3D movies are good value.


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What is wrong with renting? :?

There does seem to be a fairly big UK vs Rest-of-Europe difference of oppinion as to whether renting long-term is worth it. I know in France people generally rent for much longer than they do over here, despite similar deposits being required.

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Percentage of rental homes in each country:

Germany 59;

Austria 50;

Netherlands 49;

Denmark 47;

France 45;

United Kingdom 33;

Italy 23;

Spain 19;

Irish Republic 19.


Figures from 2003.

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What is wrong with renting? :?


Its a constant waste of money paying someone for something you will never own...its what we will have to do because we can't afford to buy yet.

Yes but if you ever get foreclosed then in effect you have only been renting as well. Until you are no longer at risk of losing it, you are in the same boat as renters. Also in the next ten years or so there will be little capital appreciation so you are no better off than a renter.

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People should chill out a bit, what is all that material nonsense about? I'd dread to get a mortgage at 18 and spend the next 25years repaying it. I don't get the British obsession with getting a house ASAP and then another one, and rent one. My parents didn't buy their house until they were at least 40 and we went on holidays 3 times a year and had lots of things that we couldn't have afforded with a mortgage at the time.


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I'm not the sort of person who has to have the latest thing or needs to drive or even smokes or drinks, so I may as well have a mortgage, at least I'll have something at the end of it and then any money earned will do my retirement, going part time or whatever. YMMV.

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My cousin bought his flat in London nearly twenty years ago and has never move but cleared his mortgage a few years ago. So now he has no mortgage and can actually cope on his reduced income since going into semi retirement. That is how to do it. Bought one property and stayed there. No fancy mucking about with refinance deals. Too many people move and then have to pay huge legal fees every few years and that means for a few years they are just paying that and stamp duty off. If you plan to buy do it once like the continental Europeans do. It has another benefit. Far fewer estate agents. :D

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Nothing wrong with renting....except the rents are exhorbitant as well!

Mainland Europe has it easier mostly because it's so much more spread out. Rents are cheaper, housing is cheaper. All we need to do in this country is build what we say we're going to build, and stop listening to 60 year old retirees who don't want new housing built which might appear on the view from the bathroom window when you look really, really far onto the horizon....

Anyhoo, no chance for me while houses down here are 12 (yes that's right T.W.E.L.V.E.) times the average salary.....

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Nothing wrong with renting....except the rents are exhorbitant as well!

Mainland Europe has it easier mostly because it's so much more spread out. Rents are cheaper, housing is cheaper. All we need to do in this country is build what we say we're going to build, and stop listening to 60 year old retirees who don't want new housing built which might appear on the view from the bathroom window when you look really, really far onto the horizon....

Anyhoo, no chance for me while houses down here are 12 (yes that's right T.W.E.L.V.E.) times the average salary.....


If you've got no chance, as a professional with a skill set and all that - I'm buggered!! I couldn't even rent as it is.


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It's only very recently in this country that so many people considered themselves rich enough to afford their own property at any age.

If you go back a couple of generations, then normal working people would rent. Their children would live with them and save up until (if ever) they could afford to move out. Often there would be 3 generations under one roof paying one rent. Today the same people would expect to own 3 houses and probably not even talk to each other, let alone care for.

Never in the history of Britain have so many people owned so much for so little effort. It's going to be a cruel awakening when the balance of economic power tips to the east, and people in the west have to struggle the way the rest of the world does today.

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