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Author: | pcernie [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:35 am ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | G20 accused officer Delroy Smellie 'felt threatend' | |||||||||
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8585555.stm |
Author: | jonlumb [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: G20 accused officer Delroy Smellie 'felt threatend' |
Saw the video clip of this on the news last night. From my (somewhat ignorant) view, it did look like the officer took one measured strike and then stopped. It was a long way from the beatings that have happened in the past for sure. |
Author: | Helsing [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:34 am ] |
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Yet at the same time, said strike looked almost entirely pre-meditated, not the kind of strike you give when you're afraid someone might have a weapon. I don't believe him, and whilst not a supporter of the girl's cause, think the book needs to be thrown at him. Though that she refuses to give evidence makes me ![]() |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:50 am ] | |||||||||
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He pushed one person then pulled out his stick to hit her, and it was clearly not motivated by fear. It was assault. He should be prosecuted and that he should then be thrown out of the force. |
Author: | belchingmatt [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:56 am ] |
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She kept on going back for more and then held her hand up with something in it... With the crowd baying I'm not surprised the officer felt threatened. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:13 am ] | |||||||||
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Well he must be a coward to be afraid of an orange juice carton. Not matter how much she mouthed off, assaulting someone is a criminal act. |
Author: | pcernie [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:09 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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I don't know the ins and outs, but there could have been a bit more than orange juice in it ![]() |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:15 am ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Yes but you could always ask the person to drink it. I do not think that there is a liquid drinkable Semtex yet. ![]() |
Author: | pcernie [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:43 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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Not in the middle of a demo/riot you couldn't ![]() |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:17 pm ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I will accept that. But he said he felt threatened. ![]() Wow she is so much shorter than him. She does not even come up to his shoulder. He must have thought that she was a ninja or something. |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:11 pm ] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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So let me get this straight : It's OK for a policeman to hit you if he fears the liquid you're carrying in a paper receptacle (for christs's sake) might actually be toxic, despite having no evidence as to whether it is or not or indeed any apparent intent on your part to throw it at them or pour it over them? It's rubbish. Frankly if he's intimidated by a girl with a carton of orange juice, he has no place in the police force anyway. I'm amazed he's able to leave the house. No. It's a postfacto justification for him doing something in a panic. Which anyway you look at it is a very bad thing. Whether he should be prosecuted or not I don't really care either way but I do know the last thing you need in a protest situation is coppers who go to pieces under pressure. If there's one thing that is going to tip a protest over into a riot its a copper hitting a protester who doesn't appear to be hitting the copper first. what you need in protest situations is coppers who can contain the situation, not do stupid unnecessary things which will enflame it. Prosecuted? Not sure, probably won't be. Sacked? Abso-bloody-lutely. He could have got people killed. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:27 pm ] |
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He should be convicted even if non custodial, but also sacked. |
Author: | belchingmatt [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: G20 accused officer Delroy Smellie 'felt threatend' |
One squirt of lemon juice in the eye is bad enough, let alone a carton of orange juice. There are lots of differing articles and witness opinion available. I'm happy for the courts to decide, which they haven't done yet. |
Author: | pcernie [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:08 pm ] | |||||||||
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I was actually thinking along the lines of other irritants, and even p1ss ![]() |
Author: | timark_uk [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:18 pm ] | |||||||||
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Oh, but wait, you can see her. Not a very good ninja then. (8+( Mark |
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