http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ar ... ?id=240378
Hmmm...
I'm curious as to what my mate's Wii output looks like in HD now that he's got a new TV
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| Author: | pcernie [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Wii HDMI upscaller released |
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ar ... ?id=240378 Hmmm... I'm curious as to what my mate's Wii output looks like in HD now that he's got a new TV
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| Author: | finlay666 [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wii HDMI upscaller released |
SNAKE OIL Most TVs will upscale it for you anyway and it's not like the difference is great IMO it looked better on a SD CRT than an HD ready LCD |
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| Author: | Linux_User [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:20 am ] | |||||||||
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+1 |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:03 am ] | |||||||||
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It is good to know, not everyone will know that. Thanks. 
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| Author: | finlay666 [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wii HDMI upscaller released |
http://kotaku.com/5505009/wii-upscaler- ... e=true&s=i Review..... I doubt the 'HD' will look any better than upscaled 480p |
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| Author: | soddit112 [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:15 pm ] | |||||||||
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might even look worse if the hardware in the upscaler is worse than the TVs hardware  either way, no point. "upscale" is another word for "stretch it across the screen", same is this whole DVD upscaling fad 
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| Author: | pcernie [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:04 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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My DVDs definitely look sharper with the upscaling, whether that's on my cheap player or PS3 
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| Author: | finlay666 [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:28 pm ] | |||||||||
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That is complete rubbish, there is a lot more to upscaling than 'stretching it across the screen' |
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| Author: | soddit112 [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:34 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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really? there doesnt seem to be an awful lot you can do to a video stream other than making the pixels bigger or boosting the colour, unless the upscaler box is full of magic. even then id imagine itd had a little trouble finding detail in the video which has been removed in the resampling process to make it fit on the disc
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| Author: | finlay666 [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:11 pm ] | |||||||||
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So apart from antialiasing, texture sharpening? Those are just basic features, they won't make your dvd look like blu ray as its impossible but it'll look better than over scart http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6859904-1.html |
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| Author: | paulzolo [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wii HDMI upscaller released |
It also depends on source. For example, my old DVD player, which connects via SCART, is upscaled by my TV fairly well. Text in menus look a bit manky, but ont he whole, when a film is playing, it looks pretty good. Cable TV is a mixed bag. Generally, I can get pretty comparable pictures from my PS3 with the PlayTV hardware and the SD Virgin box. PS3 is HDMI, cable box is SCART. Channels like those from the BBC look good on both systems. Lesser channels, such as Virgin 1, look dreadful. This is partly because V1 seems to be using poor quality recordings - eg Fresh Prince of Bel Air looks dreadful on both systems, and Star Trek Voyager looks very blurry. On the whole, though, V1 seems to be more compressed, and it looks far worse on cable. I suspect that the PS3’s upscaling is a little better than the TV’s. I do notice an interesting effect on cable sourced output, and it’s noticeable on some BBC channels too. Because of the way the compression works, and no doubt the fact that it has been upscaled, I notice that detail can “swim” above the colour. If you can imagine a printed cartoon where the outlines have missed the colour, you will get the general idea. This was present, but barely noticeable, on my old TV, but on the larger screen it’s much more obvious. I have seen WII games, and I really am not impressed by the graphics anyway - they look quite primitive, and generally less well formed than those on the PS3 and 360. I’m not surprised that they scale poorly up to HD resolutions. We are planning on inviting Virgin to replace the SD box with an HD box. When the previous SD box died, I asked them if they could just swap it for an HD one. I was told that there was a waiting list, and they could not do a straight swap. 
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| Author: | veato [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wii HDMI upscaller released |
If you use the EDTV (480p) setting on Wii with a component cable and ouput to an HDTV is the image actually upscaled by the TV (i.e. all the fancy tricks and algorithims, etc) or is the image simply stretched to fit? I presume there's a difference between proper upscaling (like what my Blu-Ray player does to DVDs) and just resizing the image to fit? I'm not expert mind you. I just wonder if this box might do more than what your TV would do? |
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| Author: | paulzolo [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:53 am ] | |||||||||
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The image will be upscaled. It won’t be taking the raw data from the WII and rendering them at 1080p - it will be taking an SD image and interpolating it cleverly to the higher resolution. |
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| Author: | soddit112 [ Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:52 pm ] | |||||||||
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if it could do that, then id be interested 
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