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Author: | pcernie [ Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:52 pm ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | NHS presents spending cuts plan to government | |||||||||
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8590710.stm |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: NHS presents spending cuts plan to government |
Maybe the government should not have been so generous to doctors last time their contracts were being negotiated. ![]() |
Author: | AlunD [ Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:18 pm ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | Re: NHS presents spending cuts plan to government | |||||||||
http://www.x404.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7307&p=110258#p110258 Yup ![]() |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:58 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
Post subject: | Re: NHS presents spending cuts plan to government | ||||||||||||||||||
Yes there was quite a lot on that and I went to sleep before I answered that one. ![]() |
Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:34 am ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | Re: NHS presents spending cuts plan to government | |||||||||
How were they generous? My pay for the first two years was less than that of an ECG technician, despite working longer and more unsocial hours. In terms of hospital doctors, the pay hasn't rocketted. In respect to GPs, they stated how difficult and unmanageable it was for out-of-hours services. The Govt. stated the Primary Care Trusts would do the work and each GP would take a paycut of £6000. This was how much the Govt valued the OOH services. Only now have they realised how much it really costs to run a proper OOH service. As for pay, as part of the new contract, the Govt decided that instead of giving GPs their full amount of money for the practices, they would pay each practice 50% and the rest they had to earn through targets. If you had your pay cut in half and then told you had to work harder to get the other half, you are gonna work hard enough to earn that remainder. In order to improve services, GPs were also offered more money for offering things like minor surgery, diabetes clinics, asthma clinics etc. You must remember GP practices are and have long been businesses. Each surgery gets a fixed amount depending on services and targets, out of which they pay for running costs such as staff, utilities, rent, insurance etc and the rest gets divided up between the partners. Some surgeries have done very well by being very clever. Others have suffered more as a result. Most GPs have taken a pay cut for the last three years since the rate of pay has increased less than inflation. Most GPs earn less than £100k pa. Hospital docs have the option of private work and also get paid extra for providing extra services too. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: NHS presents spending cuts plan to government |
Yes but there were cases of doctors making much larger sums than £100 k. Overall though as you say there has been no problems at the GP level. I was thinking more of consultants. |
Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: NHS presents spending cuts plan to government |
Consultants make a "basic" salary of £70k or so. By doing extra things such as more clinics/specialist procedures/innovating or management plans etc, they get more "points" which means more cash. This can raise a consultant's pay to around £100k. Those who do more senior/prominant positions eg clinical director of the department will earn more as a result. Don't forget: most GPs can't/don't do private work. Consultants can. I know of orthopaedic consultants who earn approximately £100k a year from the NHS, then go off in their personal time and do private work and earn another £200k. Suddenly there are consultants who earn a sum of £300k a year. |
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