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Girl, Six, Sexually Abused By 23 Classmates
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pcernie
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-New ... 0910?f=rssJesus Christ... If you even thought your kid had taken part in that you'd beat the [LIFTED] out of em...
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:47 am |
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JJW009
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Where the hell were the staff? 24 6 year old children should never be left unattended for even a minute, let alone every day for months !!!
It makes you wonder if a teacher was complicit.
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:03 am |
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l3v1ck
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+1000000 How could they never notice if it was happening on a daily basis.
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:01 am |
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AlunD
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One half of me feels so sorry for the child and her parents the other half of me wants to beat 7 types of sh1t out of the teachers who weren't doing their jobs, publicly broadcasting their names and addresses and to put the kids who did it in care as their parents are obviously not doing their jobs!
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:06 am |
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l3v1ck
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What gets me is how could not one child in that class think "This is wrong, I don't want to be a part of it?"
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:10 am |
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Fogmeister
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Even if a 6 year old child did think that I doubt they would speak out. Probably through fear of being put through it themselves. To other 6 year old children, 6 year old children can be very intimidating/persuasive.
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:12 am |
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Amnesia10
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The teachers in this case are in so much trouble. Where are the police in this case? Doing an internal review without the police is appalling. The school should be closed and the teachers fired if not all put on the sex offenders register. Lack of action is just as bad as an act of commission.
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:55 am |
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belchingmatt
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If you are old enough to sexually abuse someone then you are old enough for the offenders register. 
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:11 am |
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Amnesia10
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I am not so sure about the kids, but they should all have to undergo some treatment to ensure that it never happens again. Though they probably should be on a watch list for quite some time. As they were all under the age of criminality the parents should given a talk to as well.
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:30 am |
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cloaked_wolf
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This is horrendous. Reminds me of the time I saw a woman who was depressed. When I asked why, her 6 year old daughter had been abused by her 7 year old nephew. He tried to rape her.
You have gotta think: - what the hell happened to the first child who decided to do this (undoubtedly the others joined in). What was he exposed to do this? - when did this happen? If this was during breaktime, it's harder to keep an eye on children. If it was during lesson time, WTF was the teacher doing?!? - why did nothing happen consequently? The parents should have been notified. what was done to stop this from happening again?
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:09 am |
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forquare1
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The whole thing is appauling.
It does make you wonder how on earth the kids know about this stuff...At the age of six I was blissfully playing in the land of ignorance (or somewhere much more cool, like space or something)... I guess part of the problem is, they are all so young, can they be held for their action? Do they know why they were doing it? Does a six year old raping another six year old have the same mentality as a 30 year old raping someone else?
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:19 am |
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JJW009
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When I was 6 we were playing kiss-chase. I was also extremely curious about girls' bodies. If something like this had gone on, I would definitely have wanted to watch. When several children start doing something, momentum can build up and it can lead to really quite extreme actions. This is why children must be supervised at all times and not left to play totally on their own initiative. If a child is caught doing something like this, then they should be told off and have it made clear that it is unacceptable. The greatest tragedy is that this went on for so very long without their behaviour being corrected. It could easily have been stopped in the first few moments with a harsh "What do you think you're doing? Stop that now!" It wasn't "rape" - they stripped the girl, and by the sounds of it they were probably "exploring". I'm not saying it isn't awful, I'm just saying the kids involved were too young to be held responsible and it wasn't anything like an adult sexually abusing a child. They should have been under adult supervision. When I was 6, we were under adult supervision at all times including "play-time" when we had "dinner ladies" patrolling. Although some bullying in the juniors did go unseen, it's inconceivable that anything on this scale could of happened in the infants. This all happened over 2 years ago. Who knows what has gone on in the minds of all those children involved over that time. Many of them will probably be telling their shrinks about it in 30 years time. "every day she cried out for help and nobody ever came" 
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:43 am |
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Linux_User
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I seriously want to know how & why these children were left unattended and unsupervised long enough for this to happen. 
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:42 pm |
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pcernie
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A few more details from the Telegraph on the case:  |  |  |  | Quote: Child A was stripped on a daily basis and routinely assaulted by children of her own age.
But a combination of the children’s young ages and a lack of firm evidence left both her teachers and local council to conclude that little could be done. As a result, all the abusers were allowed to remain at the school.
The victim’s mother, who learned of the abuse from another parent, eventually moved her daughter to another school in a different area.
Her calls for an investigation were ignored until she took legal action, which prompted the local authority to launch a serious case review.
Its officers then took two years before publishing their findings on Thursday
The review concluded that while Child A had undoubtedly been the victim of sexually harmful behaviour, it was impossible to establish exactly what happened.
The school and the local education authority – neither of which can be named – said the fact that the abusers were under the age of criminal responsibility meant little action could be taken.
The Children’s Commissioner for Wales, Keith Towler, described the delay in investigating the girl’s torment as “a shocking failure”.
He went on: “The bottom line is that the family will never know what happened to their child.”
The case comes amid renewed debate about the criminal age of responsibility - which stands at 10 - after Maggie Atkinson, the Children's Commissioner, said that Jon Venables and Robert Thompson should not have been prosecuted in an adult court for the murder of James Bulger.
Child A’s mother said: “I will never forget the look on her face. I said 'It is ok, you can tell Mummy', and then it all started to come out.
"She was telling me things that I think every mother dreads to hear from their daughter. It was horrendous what she was going through.
"Every day she was being stripped, she was being physically and sexually abused every day and every day she cried out for help and nobody ever came. And I think you can’t excuse that. How can you possibly say that is OK and nobody is answerable for that?”
The mother said she feared her daughter would be traumatised for the rest of her life.
Mr Towler said he now planned to overhaul the serious case review process in Wales “to make sure they are much more timely published, within a year of incidents happening.”
Only then would it be possible to establish in future cases “what happened, why it happened and what we need to do to put things right.”
The commissioner also suggested that teachers needed on-going training so they were better equipped to recognise such incidents.
Senior officers at the local authority involved insist that the case review had been robust, and emphasised that the school had received excellent inspections both before and after the case.
Neelam Bhardwaja, president of the Directors of Social Services in Wales, said: “If there are these number of children involved, it begs the questions 'Where did that behaviour arise from?
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Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:56 pm |
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Amnesia10
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This gets worse for the teachers the more i read. Why were the kids not given any supervision? Why when she called did no one appear? That is the bit which damns the school, the school head and any and all staff on duty there.
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