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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8684977.stmI can see both sides of the argument there. And I had no idea the Scouts were so popular 
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Why do they need special muslim groups? Why can't muslim boys go to normal scout groups? 
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DaftFunk
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Wed May 06, 2009 3:39 pm Posts: 478 Location: Peterborough
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+1 I'm just going to say what first came to mind, religion should be taken down the smoking ban route, not in public and should be labelled "is harmful to your health"
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Nick
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm Posts: 3527 Location: Portsmouth
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I was a beaver, then a cub, and then a scout. It was brilliant! 
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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paulzolo
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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Mostly because “normal” scout groups are Christian. I have yet to hear about atheist scout movements…
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Actually they changed that years and years ago. The Scout's law changed from "To do my duty to God" to "To do my duty to my god". Strangely atheists still weren't welcome back then. They didn't have Beavers in my time. I did cubs, scouts and ventures.
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Sun May 16, 2010 3:39 pm |
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Nick
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm Posts: 3527 Location: Portsmouth
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I don't remember praying. 
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Are you sure you weren't in the Guides. 
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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I was a cub, a scout and then an assistant instructor for a while. I would thoroughly recommend it to anyone.
I loved it for the rock climbing, pot holing, sailing, canoeing, orienteering, rafting, building rope-slides and other cool stuff, camping, shooting, archery and most important - FIRE!
When I joined, they made a note of my "religion". I said I didn't know so they were going to put CoE. I objected. I can't remember what they put in the end, but "atheist" would have been most appropriate at the time.
We used to swear allegiance to God and to the Queen. We said the Lord's Prayer at every meeting. We said "grace" before every meal. Christianity was pretty thickly engrained, presumably from LBP's original vision.
I have a great deal of love for the scout movement, but I would personally like to see all religious aspects removed. Others might disagree, arguing that religion is a part of what makes a well rounded, confident and caring young person. They are entitled to their opinion, but provided people respect other's beliefs I don't see that they need to be a part of Scouting.
Does anyone know if the Canadian and Australian scouts pledge allegiance to the Queen?
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Sounds like it is adapting nicely. Also they have joeys instead of beavers.
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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+1 Though where else could you get a jihad badge?
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brataccas
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:14 pm Posts: 5664 Location: Scotland
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WTF!?!?! you were never a "scub"? a scub is a cub that has just joined the ranks of being a scout, I think the word scub is half scout half cub and rhymes with "nub" ironically  I was never a beaver, just a scout for many years then venture scout  best days of my life tbh
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Nick
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm Posts: 3527 Location: Portsmouth
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Haha yes I was bratty!
I remember, there was a short "transition" between the two - where I would spend half the session with the younger group and then go and spend the second half with the older boys.
I can remember being one of two boys wearing the grey uniform, while everyone else was wearing their green one.
I felt strangely proud when we had our little ceremony and got given our green jumpers, and woggles.
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Sun May 16, 2010 11:12 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Yep Nope Nope Nope That's my experience anyway.
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