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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/pers ... ssion.htmlProbably because the working class could not get on the property/debt ladder in the first place.  |  |  |  | Quote: James Jones, a manager at Experian, said: “Plummeting returns on savings and dwindling investments have combined with significant increases in essential living costs, such as petrol, food and domestic energy, to really hurt the pockets of the middle classes. Many will also have been stung by the property market slump, through heavily mortgaged second homes or buy-to-let investments.” And Alan Tomlinson an insolvency practitioner at Tomlinsons, said "People on £40,000 salaries were spending like people earning six figures and when house prices started to fall and the employment market weaken it all ended in quite dramatic style. If your finances are very geared, as they so often were, it only takes a small change in circumstances for the walls to come crashing in." |  |  |  |  |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I was £22k down last year due to reduced work and unemployment. Now I have a job it's another £3k a year less and comes with lots more pointless paperwork.
Bloody bankers.
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Fri May 21, 2010 7:28 pm |
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TheHobgob
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:33 pm Posts: 491 Location: UK, England.
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 Either you used to earn a [LIFTED] load are were unemployed for the majority of the year? What is it you do l3v1ck, if you don't mind me asking?
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Fri May 21, 2010 8:00 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I work offshore. I spent eleven months at home before I was laid off. ( Jan-Nov) I was on about half my normal income during that time. Just spent 5 months on the dole before I got a new job last month.
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Fri May 21, 2010 8:55 pm |
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TheHobgob
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:33 pm Posts: 491 Location: UK, England.
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Your a pirate 
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Fri May 21, 2010 9:45 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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I have a friend in the construction industry and his pay is no more than it was ten years ago and down considerably on that before the crisis. While the bankers are a major cause of the problems it was the whole borrowing well beyond peoples means that got everyone into that position. That is partly the fault of the regulators who allowed banking standards to slip.
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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No-one 'borrowed beyond their means' quite as much as UK banks (and I reserve particular judgement for HBOS and RBS) did.
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Fri May 21, 2010 11:20 pm |
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rustybucket
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:10 pm Posts: 5836
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Drip drip drip drip... It's the sound of my heart bleeding.
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Fri May 21, 2010 11:32 pm |
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TheHobgob
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:33 pm Posts: 491 Location: UK, England.
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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What counts as "middle classes" these days? I keep being told the "average" wage is in the mid 20s(K), but TBH I'm finding it hard to find jobs (admittedly for graduates) that pay more than £16-18k.
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Sat May 22, 2010 12:25 am |
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TheHobgob
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:33 pm Posts: 491 Location: UK, England.
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Yes but I don't think they are categorising class by wage at 21, graduate wage tends to increase far faster than most other groups of people. So after 10 years you should be on £30k+, therefore fitting into that "middle class" bracket so when your kids go to uni you get no state support  .
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