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Author:  pcernie [ Sat May 29, 2010 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  BT fumes at Ofcom's file-sharing clampdown

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/358312/bt-f ... -clampdown

Ofcom and BT can both go and upload the proposals :x

Author:  belchingmatt [ Sat May 29, 2010 6:33 pm ]
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Ofcom and clampdown, two of the most unlikely words to see in the same sentence.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat May 29, 2010 10:37 pm ]
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I have no sympathy for BT, though why ISPs are having to do this defies logic.

Author:  Linux_User [ Sun May 30, 2010 11:55 pm ]
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Hopefully the Tories will make good on their promises and abolish Ofcom - soon.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon May 31, 2010 1:05 am ]
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Well who will regulate the telecoms business then? If no one then expect to be ripped off in a big way.

Author:  pcernie [ Mon May 31, 2010 10:43 am ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Well who will regulate the telecoms business then? If no one then expect to be ripped off in a big way.


Ofcom are/were next to useless anyway, since they're about as independent as Simon Cowell and his 'acts' :x

Author:  pcernie [ Mon May 31, 2010 10:53 am ]
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Quote:
10 things you need to know about Ofcom's file sharing crackdown
Hint: it won't stop piracy
By Gary Marshall

Ofcom's proposed new Code of Practice is out. And Ofcom wants your comments


We have some good news and some bad news. The good news is that Ofcom's proposed new Code of Practice doesn't look like it'll kill public Wi-Fi.

The bad news is that if you're naughty, you'll be listed in the Big Book of Dodgy Downloaders so that copyright owners can sue you silly.

Here are the 10 things you need to know, and the one thing that'll make you go "WTF?"

1. No one needs to panic yet

The Code of Practice is a draft, not a final version, and it's got to go through a consultation and approval process first. The consultation period ends in July, then it requires EU approval and UK Parliament approval. Ofcom hopes to have a final version in place by early next year.

2. Small ISPs aren't included

Ofcom proposes that the Code of Practice will only cover ISPs with more than 400,000 subscribers each. That means the big seven - BT, Talk Talk, Virgin Media, Sky, Orange, O2 and the Post Office - will be covered from day one, so the Code will affect 96% of fixed-line broadband users. Are small ISPs rubbing their hands with glee or panicking about their impending bandwidth bills?

3. Mobile internet isn't covered

The draft Code of Practice is purely for fixed-line ISPs, not mobile ones. Maybe that's because mobile internet is so pricey, downloading a dodgy DVD costs more than any court could possibly fine you.

Ofcom says it's because piracy levels are low on mobile networks and that they are costly for the operators to police, given that mobile internet users are on dynamic IP addresses and "an IP address identified as related to copyright infringement may be in use by multiple individual subscribers at the time of the alleged infringement."

4. It's a three-strike process

Ofcom proposes a three-stage notification process for ISPs, rather like the verbal warning / written warning / final written warning disciplinary process many employers adopt. You'll receive your first angry-gram the first time you're caught, a second one if you're caught again at least one month later, and the third and final warning can be triggered a month after that. Each notification will include the evidence against you.

5. You'll have the right to appeal

Feel you've been fingered unfairly? Ofcom "will establish an independent, robust subscriber appeals mechanism for consumers". The appeals body will be able to award costs and/or compensation to people unfairly or wrongly targeted, which suggests that appealing might be an expensive exercise.

The grounds for appeal are pretty much what you'd expect: "it wasn't me", because you've been wrongly matched to an offending IP address; "it wasn't infringement", because you were downloading Ubuntu, not U2; "it wasn't me" again, because your connection had been hacked; or "you're doing it wrong", because the ISP or copyright owner didn't stick to the rules.

6. Public Wi-Fi doesn't appear to be doomed

Ofcom argues that Wi-Fi is essentially the same as fixed-line broadband, but while it argues that Wi-Fi providers such as hotels and coffee shops are indeed Internet Service Providers, "the number of subscribers would not meet the required threshold". So maybe we're not going to lose public Wi-Fi after all.

7. There's a new acronym to worry about

CIR, or Copyright Infringement Reports, are documents produced by copyright owners such as record labels claiming copyright infringement. They must include "robust and accurate evidence" of wrongdoing and be sent to your ISP within 10 days of gathering that evidence. Your ISP will then match the IP address to the account holder.

9. Nobody's crippling your internet just yet

There's nothing in the proposed Code about throttling connections, blocking ports or booting people off the net altogether, but that doesn't mean such measures aren't coming. If the new Code doesn't "significantly reduce online infringement" - which, let's be honest, it won't - then the Digital Economy Act "gives the Secretary of State the power to introduce further obligations."

10. You can change the Code

None of this is final, and Ofcom is actively encouraging interested parties to have a look at its proposals and comment on them. You'll find the consultation documents at http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs ... ringement/.

The WTF bit…

In much the same way that hungry curry addicts can choose the most tempting dish from a takeaway menu, angry copyright owners will be able to choose targets for their lawyers from a Big Book of Dodgy Downloaders, known as a Copyright Infringement List or CIL.

This is an ISP-provided list of people the ISP has sent a third bad behaviour warning to, and it'll be sent to copyright owners on request. However, it won't include your name and address - that requires a court order - and it will only list warnings that are relevant to the copyright owner, so if Sony's asking for a CIL it'll only get lists of people allegedly caught downloading Sony's stuff.

Read more: http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/ ... z0pVFYADIC


I suspect it'll amount to nothing more than a fudge for everyone - the media owners, the consumer, the government, the ISPs...

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon May 31, 2010 1:24 pm ]
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I wonder how they will compile that list of downloaders. If it is from heavy downloaders it needs do define what is heavy usage. I have been checking the downloads volume of one machine. It has downloaded 5 Gb in two days and that is just browsing, plus wallpaper updates. I have OSX planet running every few minutes and it downloads a huge image file of earth every few minutes with different overlays of storms, eruptions sunlight shadow even satellites passing overhead, all of which is legal. Add in eBay sniping data and that can add another gigabyte a day, and all completely legal. Then what about music streaming from Spotify? That is legal and would be recorded as music.

Author:  JJW009 [ Mon May 31, 2010 2:45 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
I wonder how they will compile that list of downloaders.

There is absolutely no chance that your Spotify or iPlayer stream will be misidentified as illegal activity. P2P traffic is very distinctive, even if it's encrypted. Many packets of certain sizes going between IPs that belong to home users rather than originating from servers.

However, the article also says that the evidence will not come from the ISPs collecting data but from the copyright holders spying on the torrent trackers and using other methods to identify material they own. It's quite trivial to get a list of people downloading any given file on a torrent or P2P network. You simply download it yourself and look at the peers. You can easily generate statistics that show how many copies any IP uploaded.

Of course, there are doubts over the legality of collecting such data - especially if it involves unauthorised modifications of P2P clients.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon May 31, 2010 3:26 pm ]
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Yes but if you have it encrypted they will not know if you are seeding the latest version of Avatar or multiple variants of Linux, which would be completely legal.

Author:  JJW009 [ Mon May 31, 2010 4:43 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Yes but if you have it encrypted they will not know if you are seeding the latest version of Avatar or multiple variants of Linux, which would be completely legal.

If we're talking about bittorrent, then encryption is irrelevant to being caught.

They don't start by looking at you to see what you're doing. They don't try to intercept any traffic. They start by looking at the source and see who's downloading it. Encryption is irrelevant because it only applies to the data in transit. If the file sharers can download it and read it, then so can the spies.

Go to Piratebay. Download the Avatar bittorent. Look at the peer list on your client. All those people are downloading Avatar, some of them with encryption. You know it's Avatar because they're in the Avatar torrent and you can view the file to ensure it's not fake.

One way to help avoid the spies is to always use a private tracker where you know for sure that everyone on there is "safe", but that's not really possible due to the difficulty in vetting applicants. For all you know, I may be a spy for Sony music. The other alternative is for them to use a VPN tunnel to hide their connection, but the VPN end point will be visible and the operator will be liable to prosecution.

The best way to avoid detection is to route traffic via a botnet, but that's a criminal activity carrying a potential prison sentence. There are legal encrypted networks which do not route traffic directly from peer to peer and thus hide your IP, but they're incredibly slow and only really used by paedophiles and terrorists. Anyone using them is aiding such activity by providing transit for their material.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon May 31, 2010 5:02 pm ]
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There is another way and that is to avoid games, music and films altogether. These are the most contentious industries. I download games but shareware and have either bought a license or deleted. I do not download pirate games because of malware risks and there are few games that I want anyway. Music is accessible via iTunes or Amazon legally so no need to download, though I prefer to buy CD's anyway.

Author:  JJW009 [ Mon May 31, 2010 5:06 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
There is another way. . .

Indeed. If you do nothing wrong, then you should have nothing to fear.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon May 31, 2010 8:16 pm ]
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JJW009 wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
There is another way. . .

Indeed. If you do nothing wrong, then you should have nothing to fear.

Yes bit even ripping CD's is technically wrong.

Author:  rustybucket [ Mon May 31, 2010 10:56 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
JJW009 wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
There is another way. . .

Indeed. If you do nothing wrong, then you should have nothing to fear.

Yes bit even ripping CD's is technically wrong.

It's illegal - not wrong.

There's a difference

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