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US supreme court: Nonviolent aid to banned groups tantamount to 'terrorism'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/jun/ ... -terrorism

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The US supreme court has upheld a broad-ranging law that allows Americans who offer advice to banned organisations, including legal assistance and information on conflict resolution, to be prosecuted as terrorists.

The case arose out of human rights advice given by a California group to Kurdish and Tamil organisations that are listed as terrorist groups in the US.

The supreme court upheld the Obama administration's argument that even advice intended to be used for peaceful purposes amounted to "material support" for terrorism.

That includes a lawyer submitting a friend-of-the-court brief on behalf of a banned group or helping a proscribed organisation to petition international bodies to bring an end to a violent conflict.

"The supreme court has ruled that human rights advocates, providing training and assistance in the nonviolent resolution of disputes, can be prosecuted as terrorists," said David Cole, a Georgetown university law professor who argued the case before the court.

"In the name of fighting terrorism, the court has said that the first amendment [on free speech] permits congress to make it a crime to work for peace and human rights. That is wrong."

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They declared the Iranian aid ships going to Palestine as terrorists last week, along with about 25 different oil and insurance companies from Iran or who have ties to Iran... :?

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Not just that but defence lawyers. So an end to fair trials. But then they are not americans anyway so why does it matter. /s

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Not just that but defence lawyers. So an end to fair trials.

Just what I was thinking.
Guilty when charged by the sound of it.

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The US and Australia are clearly going down the wrong path socially. The Conservatives have gone in the right direction with banned ID cards and expunging homosexuality from criminal records.

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They're obviously going about it completely the wrong way, but some individual lawyers and groups can be almost as dangerous as the groups they're helping in the long run - quite a few solicitors in NI and the USA itself for instance were fundraising and moving money around, or schooling terrorist suspects in legal questioning and interrogation techniques.

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Indeed.

The American authorities weren't so bothered about aiding terrorism when they turned a blind eye to ex-pat Irish nationalists helping fund the IRA.

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Indeed.

The American authorities weren't so bothered about aiding terrorism when they turned a blind eye to ex-pat Irish nationalists helping fund the IRA.

Hello Mr. Kettle, I'm Mr. Pot and I'm black. :roll:

As far as the Americans were concerned they were "one of our terrorists"

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It's obvious to everyone outside of America that they are acting more and more like some malevolent Doctor Evil. They're so totally inbred they don't know just how prejudice and insane they are.

If they didn't have such bloody big guns, it would be ironic. As it is, it's terrifying.

They're now so far removed from reality that it's time to act. I vote we nuke them from orbit right now. It's the only way to be sure. If that's a bit extreme, maybe we should just kill all the Jews. Now we have genetic mapping, it shouldn't be too hard and it would solve a hell of a lot of problems.

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