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Top Gear: popular BBC show to 'cut back on the comedy stunts'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvan ... tunts.html

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James May, who presents the motoring programme alongside Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond, said there would be a more serious tone to the new series, which begins on Sunday.
The decision to alter the BBC Two show follows repeated criticism of Top Gear's sillier stunts.
“The keen observer will see a subtle change this series, a slight retreat from the Last of the Summer Wine tomfoolery. It’s easy to get carried away – it’s like drinking, you start to believe you’re funny and other people might not," May told the Radio Times.
“I don’t think anybody would say a TV programme has got too big – everybody wants their programme to be the biggest in the world. But it opens you to accusations of dumbing down, all that sort of stuff. It possibly makes it more difficult.”
Notorious Top Gear stunts include the presenters blowing up a caravan, May pretending to crash-land an airship and Clarkson firing a Renault Twingo off the docks in Belfast. Clarkson has found himself in trouble several times
In November, Ofcom upheld viewer complaints about a Top Gear spoof advert in which a man shot himself in the head because he had bought the wrong car. The BBC argued that the scene was a "ludicrous and obviously comic" depiction of suicide, but the media watchdog disagreed.
May, a Daily Telegraph columnist, said he would like to pursue more serious television projects when he finishes Top Gear, including "a serious eight-part documentary about the post-war development of the car - fairly highbrow, Andrew Marr territory".
While it has its critics, Top Gear is BBC Two's most-watched programme, regularly drawing audiences of over five million. It is broadcast in more than 100 countries and is said to be one of the most illegally downloaded programmes in the world.

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Hmmm, I suspect this has more to do with their budget again, but there was no doubt they'd gone a bit far with the scripted stuff...

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Good, it might make it more watchable.

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Shame, I like their epic challenges. The Bolivia one in the last series was awesome!

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Shame, I like their epic challenges. The Bolivia one in the last series was awesome!

Really? :?

I found that one to be a bit yawn-tastic to be honest; that's what Ray Mears is for surely?

When I watch Top Gear, I actually want to know about the cars, not about three blokes f***ing around, Clarkson's bigotry or Hammond's willful pig ignorance. If they could somehow combine the personality of Top Gear with the much better testing and reviews of Fifth Gear, I'd be a happy man.

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If they could somehow combine the personality of Top Gear with the much better testing and reviews of Fifth Gear, I'd be a happy man.


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When I watch Top Gear, I actually want to know about the cars, not about three blokes f***ing around, Clarkson's bigotry or Hammond's willful pig ignorance.
your watching the wrong programme then!

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When I watch Top Gear, I actually want to know about the cars, not about three blokes f***ing around, Clarkson's bigotry or Hammond's willful pig ignorance.
your watching the wrong programme then!

No, they're making the wrong programme...

...given that it's supposed to be a car magazine show. :roll:

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I like Top Gear, and not so much Fifth Gear, though the stunts were excessive at times. I did like the one about renting versus buying when travelling around America. The one where they grew biofuel was fun but did show that it was all pointless. Fewer would be better overall and cheaper.

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rustybucket wrote:

When I watch Top Gear, I actually want to know about the cars, not about three blokes f***ing around, Clarkson's bigotry or Hammond's willful pig ignorance.
your watching the wrong programme then!

No, they're making the wrong programme...

...given that it's supposed to be a car magazine show. :roll:


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As long as they managed to avoid going PC and have a women presenter.

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Really? :?

I found that one to be a bit yawn-tastic to be honest; that's what Ray Mears is for surely?

When I watch Top Gear, I actually want to know about the cars, not about three blokes f***ing around, Clarkson's bigotry or Hammond's willful pig ignorance. If they could somehow combine the personality of Top Gear with the much better testing and reviews of Fifth Gear, I'd be a happy man.


Fifth Gear are a poor shadow of Top Gear. The testing they do is no better than TG, surely?

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Fifth Gear are a poor shadow of Top Gear. The testing they do is no better than TG, surely?

I do wonder slightly if Fifth Gear might have faired better on the beeb. I can't help but think there was a 'stigma' to being on Five that they never got past. However they chopped and changed the format way too often and made some startlingly bad decisions - Tim Lovejoy? Presenting a car show? really? - so they really were the architects of their own demise at the end of the day. And Tiff Needell may be able to powerslide cars very well but that's only because he manages to lay down a thick, slippery layer of smug on the track first.

Nevertheless, TG is what we have and it's very successful by almost every objective measure, so wishing for it to change puts you right up there with King Canute. It'll change when/if it feels like it.

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There's no reason why they couldn't all pick a similar new car for road test challange (none destructive obviously).
Eg Clarkson - Ford Focus
May - Vauxhall Astra
Hammond - Toyota Auris
You get the fun stuff and a car review at the same time.

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There's no reason why they couldn't all pick a similar new car for road test challange (none destructive obviously).
Eg Clarkson - Ford Focus
May - Vauxhall Astra
Hammond - Toyota Auris
You get the fun stuff and a car review at the same time.

Get them doing a few days in the life of a rep. In reps usual cars, that could make an interesting set of car reviews. Though if the sale slump will they blame top gear rather than accept that they were selling crappy cars? ;)

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