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Author:  pcernie [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Secret docs reveal Dell knew PCs were faulty

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Dell is in court accused of knowingly selling thousands of computers which it knew were likely to be faulty.

Documents seen by Ashlee Vance at the New York Times show Dell staff were aware that problems with capacitors from Nichicon were likely to hit at least 11.8 million OptiPlex machines shipped to customers between May 2003 and July 2005.

An internal review by Dell itself found that 97 per cent of the machines were likely to fail over three years. The problems got worse when Dell managed to replace the faulty motherboards with other faulty ones.

Staff were told not to warn customers proactively and to "emphasize the uncertainty", the NYT reports.

Complaints from the University of Texas were fended off by Dell staff blaming the university for overloading the machines with difficult maths problems. Even the law firm currently defending Dell got burned when the direct seller refused to fix 1,000 computers bought by the lawyers.

Dell, once the darling of the industry, has tried to put the problems behind it - settling this month with the SEC, and paying out $300m in 2005 for problems with the OptiPlex desktops at the centre of the current lawsuit.

Dell's model of tightly controlled inventory and Japanese "just-in-time" logistics was meant to provide a way to make a profit from turning out hardware and reduce the impact of this kind of failure.

The company lost its way in reacting to consumer demand and watched most of the rest of the industry mimic its supply chain.

Dell must now deal with a consumer lawsuit without sparking a larger class action case, or action from disappointed shareholders.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/29 ... ex_issues/

And that sort of thing is why I wouldn't touch Dell...

Author:  big_D [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Secret docs reveal Dell knew PCs were faulty

Friends don't let friends buy Dell...

That said, I've had simialr problems with other manufacturers, we had a bunch of Compaq LTE laptops turn up, with 90% being DoA or failing within 2 weeks. About 70% of the machines were replaced again within the warranty period, because of cracks in the case!

But to knowingly defraud your customers, especially when they are also your lawyers(!!!!) is just crazy,

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Secret docs reveal Dell knew PCs were faulty

Knowing that they deliberately sold them knowing they were faulty will guarantee a huge class action settlement.

Author:  AlunD [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Secret docs reveal Dell knew PCs were faulty

I have managed the installation of 100,000 PC's over the years and Dell are always top of my reliability list. Sure some of them do have problems and when you look at a few 100,000 machines from any manufacturer then the same can be said.

I'm surprised by the example quoted but I'm happy buying them for work clients.

Author:  Nick [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:49 pm ]
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I'd be surprised if this company hadn't also supplied the dodgy componants to other manhfacturers.

Author:  JJW009 [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Secret docs reveal Dell knew PCs were faulty

My experience of Dell has always been quite favourable compared to other companies.

Toshiba's cheaper laptops have been the most unreliable computer products I've ever experienced. Out of the last 30 or so I've dealt with, every single one of them has failed within 12 months. Some of them were fixed under warranty, but some of them were just sent back still faulty with a note saying that they were fine...

Let's face it. Most companies are sh!t, it's just a matter of degree.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:32 pm ]
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I've never actualy bought Dell. I did consider one of their laptops recently, but the specifications weren't quite what I wanted. I went for a Sony in the end.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:13 pm ]
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Nick wrote:
I'd be surprised if this company hadn't also supplied the dodgy componants to other manhfacturers.

It would be a dead certainty. Look at how many companies were affected by the faulty Sony batteries a couple of years ago.

Author:  ProfessorF [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:51 pm ]
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NY TImes version of events - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/techn ... 9dell.html

Author:  big_D [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:29 am ]
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My new Sony needed a BIOS update today, because the series was overheating.

And Apple? They are making the Dell case look minor. The new iPhone 4 memo is very damning, sales staff can't give cases away to solve the signal problem, customers must pay for it and they won't be working on a fix...

Author:  jonlumb [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Secret docs reveal Dell knew PCs were faulty

big_D wrote:
My new Sony needed a BIOS update today, because the series was overheating.

And Apple? They are making the Dell case look minor. The new iPhone 4 memo is very damning, sales staff can't give cases away to solve the signal problem, customers must pay for it and they won't be working on a fix...


I'd be hitting them with the Sale of Goods Act over that one (given that the problem doesn't effect every phone). It's clearly not fit for purpose.

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