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Author:  pcernie [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:10 am ]
Post subject:  1.3m jobs 'could go due to spending cuts', report says

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Cuts announced in the Budget could lead to up to 1.3 million jobs being lost by 2015, a newspaper report claims.

The Guardian says leaked Treasury figures predict that up to 120,000 public sector jobs and 140,000 private sector jobs could disappear annually for the next five years.

Labour figures said the true cost of George Osborne's Budget was now clear.

But the government said independent experts expect "unemployment to fall in every year and employment to rise".

The Guardian says the figures come from a slide which was part of a Treasury presentation on the Budget.

It claims the Chancellor would have seen the presentation before delivering his Budget last week.

A Treasury spokesman said on Tuesday night that the department could not immediately confirm or deny whether the slide was genuine.
'Wishful thinking'

Mr Osborne announced real terms cuts across all government departments of 25% over four years - except health and foreign aid which are ring-fenced.

He did not say how many public sector jobs were expected to go - but the government has previously insisted that the bulk will come from not filling vacant posts, rather than by making redundancies.

At the same time, the government is predicting that 2.5 million jobs will be created as a result of private sector growth by 2015.

But TUC general secretary Brendan Barber said that was "absurd", given the reduction in the availability of government contracts and the likely fall in public spending as a result of the austerity measures.

"This is not so much wishful thinking as a complete refusal to engage with reality," said Mr Barber.

"Much more likely are dole queues comparable to the 1980s, a new deep north-south divide and widespread poverty as the Budget's benefit cuts start to bite."

In response to the Guardian story, the Treasury cited a report by the independent Office for Budget Responsibility, set up by Mr Osborne, which predicts that unemployment will peak this year at 8.1% and then fall in each of the next four years to reach 6.1% in 2015.

But shadow chancellor Alistair Darling said that "far from being open and honest", the Chancellor had "failed to tell the country there would be very substantial job losses as a result of his Budget".

"The Tories did not have to take these measures. They chose to take them," Mr Darling said.

"They are not only a real risk to the recovery but hundreds of thousands of people will pay the price for the poor judgment of the Conservatives, fully supported by the Liberal Democrats."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10457352.stm

I'll believe severe public sector job cuts when I see them, the truth is the government is too reliant on them for the employment figures...

Author:  belchingmatt [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:30 am ]
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Jobs or non-jobs?

Author:  pcernie [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:00 pm ]
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belchingmatt wrote:
Jobs or non-jobs?


I don't think it'll make much difference in terms of what actually gets done :oops:

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:27 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
I'll believe severe public sector job cuts when I see them, the truth is the government is too reliant on them for the employment figures...

They will happen but will they stop when they see that no private sector jobs are being created? That is the whole basis of these job cuts. They almost believe that they are crowding out private sector job creation. All that it will do is cut local wage rates in the area.

Author:  dogbert10 [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:33 pm ]
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They can start here

Author:  Nick [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:47 pm ]
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dogbert10 wrote:
They can start here


Well done the Daily Mail.

:roll:

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:42 pm ]
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Nick wrote:
dogbert10 wrote:
They can start here


Well done the Daily Mail.

:roll:

I cant believe you actually said that!!!!!

I would actually think that if they use the past attendance as a way of eliminating shed loads of useless staff that would be a good thing. Plus their manager/supervisor. It would have been their job to deal with the problem, and they clearly would not have done it.

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Back to the day's business. Jerry is the next to arrive at 10.25am - before he takes his jacket off he performs his morning ritual of taking both his phones off the hook.

God forbid that any resident and council tax payer should be able to speak to him and get some of the advice he's paid £64k a year to dispense.

Jerry is 63 and two years from retirement. He is what is known in the civil service and local government as an 'untouchable' - he's been at the council for more than 40 years, does no work, but would cost an absolute fortune to get rid of.

So he's left alone to play online poker, Skype his daughter in Florida and take his two-hour daily snooze at his desk, no doubt dreaming of the day when his gold-plated public sector pension will kick in.

Sack him for a disciplinary matter. Go through the two warnings and the final written warning and sack them.

Author:  Nick [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:43 pm ]
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Oh come on Amnesia - do you honestly think that's standard practice in the public sector?

6 months off, work for two days, and then another 6 months off?

Pfft, give it a break.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:35 pm ]
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Nick wrote:
Oh come on Amnesia - do you honestly think that's standard practice in the public sector?

6 months off, work for two days, and then another 6 months off?

Pfft, give it a break.

No I do not think that it is standard practice. Though it would make some quick and easy cuts. Don't forget that more than 70% of many departments expenditure is wages. Get rid of the slackers and you make the cuts elsewhere that little bit easier.

Author:  dogbert10 [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:23 am ]
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Nick wrote:
Oh come on Amnesia - do you honestly think that's standard practice in the public sector?

6 months off, work for two days, and then another 6 months off?

Pfft, give it a break.


It may not be "standard" practice, but it's not uncommon. My brother works in the public sector, as do several of my friend's relatives, and every one of them has a similar story of people who take loads of "sick" days, managers that can't do anything because of the unions and others who do practically no work. I think they should bring in random inspections to check attendance and force all people to go to a specified doctor to obtain a sick note.

Author:  veato [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:58 am ]
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I could tell a few tales from my workplace sure but that article seems barely believable tbh.

Author:  Nick [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:06 am ]
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Completely unbelievable if you ask me.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:56 am ]
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One thing that I have noticed about council staff is that they are constantly in meetings of some form that achieve absolutely nothing.

Author:  pcernie [ Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:14 pm ]
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dogbert10 wrote:
Nick wrote:
Oh come on Amnesia - do you honestly think that's standard practice in the public sector?

6 months off, work for two days, and then another 6 months off?

Pfft, give it a break.


It may not be "standard" practice, but it's not uncommon. My brother works in the public sector, as do several of my friend's relatives, and every one of them has a similar story of people who take loads of "sick" days, managers that can't do anything because of the unions and others who do practically no work.


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