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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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_________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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Nick
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm Posts: 3527 Location: Portsmouth
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I am going to graduate in two years time (just finished my second year).
Damn.
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:11 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Annoyingly all the sectors I wish to get into are currently experiencing recruitment freezes or are laying people off. I'm not even going to bother with applying for graduate jobs, I'll take my chances locally. Thankfully I've walked into a job which will tide me over 'til September, whereupon I'll have to start claiming JSA.
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:14 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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I do not think that it will be any better then. Far too many graduates chasing after the very few graduate jobs and unless you have a first and it is relevant to the job, then odds are the chances will be mixed for most graduates.
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:28 pm |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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No wonder this is the case, anybody can get a 2 bit degree nowadays.
Students have to pay more for something that is worth less than when it was free.
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:32 pm |
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mikepgood
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:23 pm Posts: 710
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Exactly, too many graduates, the result is only the top ones get the jobs
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:21 pm |
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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Means I'm in the few who have a proper graduate job (I don't class working in A&F or McDonalds as a graduate job) given the current demand.
That said I'm still looking at options for other things such as internships in places, postgraduate education etc
_________________TwitterCharlie Brooker: Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults; computers for scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for people who earnestly believe in feng shui.
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:55 pm |
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forquare1
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:36 pm Posts: 5161 Location: /dev/tty0
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It doesn't surprise me.
Then again, I feel that being a graduate is nothing special, it just means you can complete countless exams and assignments, very little to do with actual working life...
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:16 pm |
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Nick
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm Posts: 3527 Location: Portsmouth
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McDonalds pay really good wages, and let's face it - when you're doing IT it doesn't matter who you're doing it for.
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:21 pm |
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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I'm not talking about working in IT within either place I mean Sales Assistant/Burger maker/chip server At a push store manager, but even then on my reduced wage for the trial period I will be earning just under the entry level store manager position. I see no pride in having a technical degree and asking if they want regular or diet coke. I like to think it is those with the less worth while degrees such as colouring in (Geography) or watching TV (Media Studies) that end up in such positions, such is the value of their 'degree' Really good wages? Starting salary is well under the national average, and it's not inflated if you work in London either http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8504999.stmThey pay £18.5k
_________________TwitterCharlie Brooker: Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults; computers for scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for people who earnestly believe in feng shui.
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:56 pm |
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big_D
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Start sending them to Apple, I hear they are looking for antenne engineers, maybe they've chucked out the chimps that designed the iPhone 4 antenne and would be welcome of just about anyone... 
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:15 pm |
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:40 pm Posts: 4876 Location: Newcastle
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I would apply, but considering how much people go on about how evil MS is they are a much better employer than Apple, considering what they do when they think news has been leaked
_________________TwitterCharlie Brooker: Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults; computers for scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for people who earnestly believe in feng shui.
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:21 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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True. You pay more for something that's worth less. That's what happens when you try and shoehorn everyone into going to university.
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:24 pm |
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Nick
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36 pm Posts: 3527 Location: Portsmouth
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Why would an IT graduate want to work as a burger flipper? As you say, the starting wage is £18500 but they are a Times top 100 companies to work for firm, and the Times website says that graduates can expect to be earning £45,000 within three years. Indeed. Yes that is the starting salary but as I said - graduates can be earning £45,000 within three years. Oh, and you get £3,000 extra for London and £1,000 extra for the south-east.
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Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:04 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Because there is nothing else. In the eighties the same happened for a while. Graduates had to take any job and that was before the big addition of student debt.
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