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Referendum on Westminster voting reform 'next May'
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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:48 am ]
Post subject:  Referendum on Westminster voting reform 'next May'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10483841.stm

Quote:
A referendum on a new electoral system is expected to be held next year, the BBC has been told.

Sources suggest that Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg is due to announce that a vote on the alternative voting (AV) system will be held on 5 May 2011.

This is the same date as English local, Scottish Parliamentary and Welsh Assembly elections.

A government source said holding the referendum on the same day as the elections should improve voter turnout.

Under the proposed AV system, voters rank candidates in order of preference and anyone getting more than 50% in the first round is elected.

If that does not happen, the candidate with the fewest votes is eliminated and voters' second choices allocated to the remaining candidates.

This process continues until a winner emerges.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Referendum on Westminster voting reform 'next May'
"Alternative vote" is a much better idea than proportional representation. :D
Author:  gavomatic57 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Referendum on Westminster voting reform 'next May'
They picked the same day as the Welsh & Scottish elections, the arrogant w**kers.
Author:  HeatherKay [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:06 am ]
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gavomatic57 wrote:
They picked the same day as the Welsh & Scottish elections, the arrogant w**kers.


While I sort of agree with your sentiment, bear in mind it saves money by using the same resources at the same time. The same thing routinely happens with the council elections.
Author:  Nick [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:44 am ]
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gavomatic57 wrote:
They picked the same day as the Welsh & Scottish elections, the arrogant w**kers.


How is that arrogant? It seems practical and sensible to me.

btw it's also the English local elections that day you arrogant w*nker.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:03 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
"Alternative vote" is a much better idea than proportional representation. :D

Well problem is that will people put Liberal as second choice now?
Author:  adidan [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Referendum on Westminster voting reform 'next May'
Amnesia10 wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
"Alternative vote" is a much better idea than proportional representation. :D

Well problem is that will people put Liberal as second choice now?

Nope.

Many will now wait for Labour to get their house in order, have some good ideas for the first time in ages and to maybe have a chance in 2 elections time after numerous LiBDem MPs get disillusioned with being the Tory biatches and split the coalition, forcing another election and a probable Tory majority.

Politics is pointless. It really is. Stagnant.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:01 pm ]
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Yes but Labour voters would have voted Liberal to keep the Tories out and the same would apply to most Liberal voters. They would vote Labour to keep the Tories out. Though with the Liberals showing their colours maybe the BNP will pick up even more votes now.
Author:  gavomatic57 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Referendum on Westminster voting reform 'next May'
Nick wrote:
gavomatic57 wrote:
They picked the same day as the Welsh & Scottish elections, the arrogant w**kers.


How is that arrogant? It seems practical and sensible to me.

btw it's also the English local elections that day you arrogant w*nker.


Because the Welsh and Scottish election dates were already arranged.

Having England's local elections and Wales & Scotland's elections on the same day is hardly the same thing as we will be voting different things in our own countries, yet Westminster sees fit to arrange a referendum on the same day as devolved elections, meaning the Welsh & Scottish have to contend with two different elections at the same time. To you and me that doesn't sound so bad, but the general population are a bit "slow" and the side effect will be low turnout on both or either - that means the Tory scum get their way and keep first past the post, or The Welsh or Scottish elections end up with a low turnout, discrediting our own governments and desire to be free from English rule. Either way, the Tories win. They want the devolved nations to be subservient and they also want first past the post.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:36 pm ]
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You need to remember that they take the second vote from the lowest scoring candidate and work their way up until somebody has 50%.
People who vote Tory/Lab/Lib may find their second vote doesn't matter as there will already be a winner by they time it gets to them.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Referendum on Westminster voting reform 'next May'
Are we going to have a poll on whether we will vote for FPTP/AV/Pie?
Author:  HeatherKay [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Referendum on Westminster voting reform 'next May'
gavomatic57 wrote:
Because the Welsh and Scottish election dates were already arranged.


Gav, that's the point. The English local elections are arranged as well.

It's common to book up such things, as it often involved hiring venues and closing schools. It makes even more sense to arrange a referendum to fall on the same day, because it means the polling stations are already set up.

It happened with the general election, too.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:53 am ]
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HeatherKay wrote:
gavomatic57 wrote:
Because the Welsh and Scottish election dates were already arranged.


Gav, that's the point. The English local elections are arranged as well.

It's common to book up such things, as it often involved hiring venues and closing schools. It makes even more sense to arrange a referendum to fall on the same day, because it means the polling stations are already set up.

It happened with the general election, too.

Also add in the cost savings. The additional costs of adding an extra vote are minimal.
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