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Author:  Linux_User [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:19 pm ]
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Barack Obama: UK relationship is 'truly special'

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US President Barack Obama has called his country's relationship with the UK "truly special", following a meeting with Prime Minister David Cameron.

The president said the world was "more secure and more prosperous" when the UK and US worked together.

During their three-hour meeting, the leaders discussed Afghanistan, the Middle East, the Gulf of Mexico oil spill and the economy.

Mr Cameron called the countries' relationship "essential".

On his first official US visit as prime minister, he added that he was "confident" that reforms to the banking system would be successful.

Speaking at a press conference, Mr Cameron called the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico a "catastrophe" and said it was in the interests of both countries that the company is successful.

'State visit'

Moving on to the release by the Scottish government of the Lockerbie bomber last year, Mr Cameron said it had been "wrong", adding: "He showed his victims no compassion... they were not allowed to die in their beds surrounded by family... neither should he."

And both leaders urged Iran to negotiate over calls to end its nuclear weapons programme.

During the talks, Mr Cameron invited Mr Obama to the UK for a state visit.

No date has been set for the trip which is not expected to happen until next year or 2012, officials travelling with the prime minister said.

The prime minister has also agreed to meet four US senators to discuss their concerns over the release of the Lockerbie bomber last year.

Mr Cameron held talks earlier with Vice-President Joe Biden, where there was "common ground on the full range of foreign policy issues," according to a Downing Street spokesman.

Talks are planned between Mr Cameron and defeated Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain and senior figures in the US Congress.

A briefing on Afghanistan at the Pentagon is expected on Wednesday, and the prime minister is also due to meet UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon in New York.

Four US senators are calling for an investigation into allegations that oil firm BP lobbied for the early freeing of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, who was convicted of the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 which killed 270 people.

The Libyan, who has terminal prostate cancer, was released by Scottish Justice Minister Kenny MacAskill in August last year on compassionate grounds.

Megrahi was said to have as little as three months to live.

BP has admitted urging the British government in 2007 to agree a wider prisoner transfer agreement with Libya, but denies any part in the decision of the Scottish government to free him.

Mr Cameron's aides said he would meet the senators, having earlier declined to do so.

But Mr MacAskill told the BBC: "I stand by the decision I made. I reflected and followed the rules and laws of Scotland. I upheld the values and the beliefs that we seek to live by as the people of Scotland."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10693215

That US-UK special relationship in full...UK bends over for USA, er, that's it!

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:28 pm ]
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I was going to say that there is a gay term called "bottom" which I think is appropriate. :D

Author:  pcernie [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:31 pm ]
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'Truly special' - was he laughing when he said it? :evil:

Author:  JJW009 [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:28 pm ]
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Arse.

Author:  Nick [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:33 pm ]
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Crikey - you guys are pretty negative!

What would you prefer?

Author:  JJW009 [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:34 pm ]
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Nick wrote:
What would you prefer?

to be on top like the good old days :lol:

Author:  Linux_User [ Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:39 pm ]
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JJW009 wrote:
Nick wrote:
What would you prefer?

to be on top like the good old days :lol:


+1 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  big_D [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:34 am ]
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It is only special, because Cameron bent over and agreed to give away BP to its American rivals...

Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:22 pm ]
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Nick wrote:
Crikey - you guys are pretty negative!

What would you prefer?


I honestly think that allying oneself too closely to the USA is problematic at any time. We may share a language,. and we may provide the Americans a history which stretches back more than 300 years, but we know that the USA is looking out for itself, and no one else. We have to remember that during WWII, the USA stayed neutral, and it took us taking out a massive loan to get them to join in. That loan was paid off only fairly recently.

It’s been like this ever since - we follow where the USA treads, even if the route leads us into very uncertain times.

The alternative - move closer to the EU. Become a part of Europe - a proper functioning part. At some time, we will be forced to make a choice. That choice will be USA or EU.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:07 pm ]
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paulzolo wrote:
but we know that the USA is looking out for itself, and no one else.

There's a famous quote - "America has no allies, only interests."

Jon

Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:36 pm ]
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the 'special relationship' means we are the only country that will back the USA when the USA are wrong and nobody else will back them
its in our own very special interest to do so

yep, a very 'special relationship' …

Linux_User wrote:
JJW009 wrote:
Nick wrote:
What would you prefer?

to be on top like the good old days :lol:


+1 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


+1 ...

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:17 pm ]
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paulzolo wrote:
I honestly think that allying oneself too closely to the USA is problematic at any time. We may share a language,. and we may provide the Americans a history which stretches back more than 300 years, but we know that the USA is looking out for itself, and no one else. We have to remember that during WWII, the USA stayed neutral, and it took us taking out a massive loan to get them to join in. That loan was paid off only fairly recently.

Also they wanted to destroy the British Empire as the only western threat against them so did what they could about our colonies. If they were independent they could buy American goods rather than British goods, though they were far for reluctant to give up the Philippines even though they promised them independence as well. That was one reason that they got Diego Garcia part of the squeeze Britain so we get bases where we want.

Author:  Nick [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:23 pm ]
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paulzolo wrote:

The alternative - move closer to the EU. Become a part of Europe - a proper functioning part. At some time, we will be forced to make a choice. That choice will be USA or EU.


That's what I'd like to see, but there are too many people who think Europe is evil.

I think the longer we leave it the less power we will have when we do jump in completely. If we had been there as a leader from the start then we may be in a better situation to get what we want.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:44 pm ]
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Nick wrote:
That's what I'd like to see, but there are too many people who think Europe is evil.

Well only idiots as far as I am concerned. The US is not evil, just very misguided at times. That cannot be said about the EU. It has been a better defender of our rights than our government. What is evil in that?

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