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Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:05 pm ]
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the police state is here, alive and doing very well …

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/2 ... ot-charged

Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:50 pm ]
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Terrible - the police again escape. This time it apparently took so long to decide what they weren't going to do that they could not even use a charge of common assault.

This country.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:55 pm ]
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In which case the police authority should look to a far higher civil settlement for failing the Tomlinson family. It was clearly not an accident.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:06 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
In which case the police authority should look to a far higher civil settlement for failing the Tomlinson family. It was clearly not an accident.

The point of argument I believe is not whether Mr. Tomlinson was assaulted by the officer - you'd have to have a pretty brass neck to pretend otherwise - but whether any injury he may have received as part of that assault was the cause of his death. Remember murder & manslaughter have to be proved 'beyond reasonable doubt'; if you can't prove the officer's actions directly led to his death, you're not going to win against a reasonable defense lawyer.

The officer in question should certainly be sacked and should have been prosecuted for assault and/or ABH, crimes which would have been readily proveable. Unfortunately whoever was running the prosecution chose to go for the more serious offense and, to put it bluntly, they blew it.

Of course, if you knew that a charge of murder/manslaughter probably wouldn't stick and you wanted the officer to get off, that's exactly what you'd do too....

Overall, this will only have made the rapidly souring relationship between the public and the police worse. A pretty awful day for Mr. Tomlinson's family but not a good day for the rest of us either.

Jon

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:00 pm ]
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I am not even suggesting that it was murder, that requires intention. That was not the case but manslaughter is a definite possibility. The fact that they screwed up so badly means that the public will want justice, and maybe a savage cut in the mets budget for each case involving a police officer might be the way to get the police to deal with such cases. If the Met lost £20 million in funding specifically because of this case on top of any other cuts, then the rest of the force will have to suffer because of this incompetence. That might get them to reconsider cover ups.

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