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ProfessorF
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 |  |  |  | Quote: Motorist used angle grinder to cut wheel clamp By: Adrian Hearn
A motorist used a metal angle grinder to cut a wheel clamp from his car before he swung the chain at the clamper and threatened to kill him, a court heard. Kevin Wright, 45, used the grinder to free his white Peugeot 205 after he failed to display a ticket and the car was clamped on May 29. But Exeter Magistrates Court heard former fundraising boss Wright then swung the chain at clamper John Young before attacking his van. He allegedly produced a metal angle grinder and spent 10 minutes cutting the wheel clamp off before leaving it on the floor.
Video footage shown to the court appeared to show Wright cutting off the clamp in a shower of sparks. Wright denies two charges of criminal damage and one of assaulting self-employed clamper John Young. Mr Young told the court: ”I could then hear a grinding sound of metal being cut. This was being done by another man who was not one of the two I initially saw come over. ”I got a camera from my van and decided to get photographic evidence. The man turned around and threatened me and said he was going to brain damage me. ”I was then approached by Kevin Wright who attempted to justify why he had cut the clamp off. ”He was muttering something about being clamped before and swore at me saying he was going to kill me.” Mr Young clamped the van at 11.30pm on a street in Exeter, Devon, and was approached by the two men at about 1am. He told the court Wright (pictured, below) picked up a metal chain from the clamp and began swinging it towards him and then used it to strike his van.
Mr Young added: ”He walked off, away from the incident but then doubled back to where the chain was and picked it up and started walking towards me. ”He was gesturing with a whipping action. At first I could not believe what I was seeing, as I had never spoken one word to him before this accident. ”I thought he was going to give my chain back, but when he started whipping it. I realised it was not what I thought. ”He circled the van with chain and smashed it on the side of the van and then did the same to the other side. ”I thought I would be next. He was cold and calculated and I thought I was going to be hit with the chain. ”He moved towards me and I had to defend myself. He lifted his arm up and I got in first and kicked him in the stomach, pushed him to the ground and fled on foot.” Wright denies causing £70 damage to a wheel clamp and £629 damage to Mr Young’s white Berlingo van as well as one charge of assault. The trial was adjourned until August 12. |  |  |  |  |
I [LIFTED] hate clampers. http://swns.com/motorist-used-angle-gri ... 91246.html
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:38 pm |
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Linux_User
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I'm with the clampers. No ticket? You deserve it, it's private property after all. Cutting the clamp off is criminal damage, and threatening to kill or seriously injure someone is a crime too.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:40 pm |
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lumbthelesser
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:43 pm |
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ProfessorF
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I was parked on private property, and clamped, once. They wanted £250 from me to release the vehicle, plus a £100 towing fee (despite that I'd returned to the car after about 5 minutes, and it patently hadn't been towed). You see, it was a studio in west London, and I was there to work, I was parked legitimately. All I was doing was speaking to the secretary to see which stage we were on. And the [LIFTED] clamped me.
In the end, I had to plead my case to the producer of the job, who then signed out all of the days petty cash to me, to get the clamp removed. I then had to interrupt the head of the studio to get him to explain to the clampers why I was there, and issue a refund. It didn't just upset my day, it upset the production and their (eventual) employers.
Absolutely no time for the little [LIFTED]. With hindsight, I should've been carrying a clamp to stick on their van...
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:46 pm |
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Linux_User
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 |  |  |  | ProfessorF wrote: I was parked on private property, and clamped, once. They wanted £250 from me to release the vehicle, plus a £100 towing fee (despite that I'd returned to the car after about 5 minutes, and it patently hadn't been towed). You see, it was a studio in west London, and I was there to work, I was parked legitimately. All I was doing was speaking to the secretary to see which stage we were on. And the [LIFTED] clamped me.
In the end, I had to plead my case to the producer of the job, who then signed out all of the days petty cash to me, to get the clamp removed. I then had to interrupt the head of the studio to get him to explain to the clampers why I was there, and issue a refund. It didn't just upset my day, it upset the production and their (eventual) employers.
Absolutely no time for the little [LIFTED]. With hindsight, I should've been carrying a clamp to stick on their van... |  |  |  |  |
So what do you propose for people who park illegally? I get people parking on my drive all the time, sodding off to the bank. shops or to the beach. I am seriously tempted to buy a clamp and exact some revenge. They've ruined my day, I'd love to ruin theirs.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:53 pm |
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davrosG5
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Put up a nice clear sign stating that it's private property and that vehicles are left at the owners risk. Wait till the offender leaves then go and set fire to their car. They'll probably only do it once and certainly no more than twice.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:00 pm |
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jonbwfc
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That would still be criminal damage and, indeed, arson. Do you still want your parking space enough to go to jail for it? Only an idiot would believe putting a sign up absolves them from the law. The obvious sensible line is to have clampers but have them properly regulated with a standard legally defined statute of tariffs. The idea that parking offence should carry a £250 charge is patently ludicrous. Not least because if the bloke who cut the clamp off had left it at that and been only charged with criminal damage his fine would probably be a lot less than that. Something like a £50 standard tariff seems entirely reasonable to me. Enough to act as a deterrent but not disproportionate to the offense. At that point if some rogue clamper decided to profiteer on it you could simply say 'OK, we'll just call the police and let them sort it out shall we?' Extortion (which is what that is) is a significantly greater offence than parking in the wrong place. Jon
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:45 pm |
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veato
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I can give a personal example as to why people get wound up:
I parked on a quiet side road on a Saturday morning to get my hair cut. I wasnt blocking a driveway, vehicle, access or anything else. There was a single yellow line and a parking restriction on a lampost. It was only a temporary restriction though enforced during 9-6 or something on weekdays.
Or so I thought.
I got back from my haircut 40 minutes later to find my car gone. I re read the sign and saw the restriction also applied to Saturday. DOH!
So... 1) it is 100% my fault. I accept I didnt read the sign, it was a mistake. But... 2) did it really warrant towing away my car costing almost £200 to get it back given the nature of the offence, time of day, etc etc.
I would have been more than happy to pay a standard parking ticket slapped on the windscreen for being stupid.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:22 pm |
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JJW009
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Clamping and towing is extortion. Anyone that thinks extortion is a valid means of employment should f*ck off and die, because they pollute the planet with their nasty little toxic lives.
The example I always give is one time I parked on Soho square. I had a valid pay and display ticket on clear view, and I'd checked very carefully that I wasn't in a restricted space since some are marked "doctor" or "residents only".
I returned to find the car gone. I asked a copper and they suggested it had probably been towed and gave me a number. I went back into my client and borrowed their phone, and it had indeed been towed to Wandsworth.
I'd managed to leave my wallet in my jacket which was in the car, but luckily I had enough cash in my pocket to get there. They eventually let me go and retrieve my wallet, however I had nowhere near enough money to pay the £250 release fee. I showed them the valid P&D ticket and said they were wrong to tow me and I was willing to go to court to argue my case, but they said I had to pay the fee first because the law did not apply to them. I said I couldn't and they'd have to keep the car until I got paid 3 weeks later, but there was a £50 a day holding fee. At this time I only earned £100 a week and my rent was £55, so I didn't have £50 a week let alone per day!
The only recourse I had was to mug several old ladies using a brick until I'd gathered enough loot to pay the f*cking Mafia Nazi ars*holes off.
Why are they above the law!!? On what planet is that remotely fair?? Absolute total scum, the lot of them.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:42 pm |
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Amnesia10
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I would like an end to clamping of all forms. If a car is parked illegally then ticket it. Not steal and then extort money. Though with the Tories in power no way will that happen. They were the ones that brought them in the first place.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:36 pm |
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:47 pm |
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Linux_User
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You can't issue a Fixed Penalty Notice if the car is on private property, hence clamping was born.
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Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:40 pm |
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finlay666
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It's illegal in Scotland too as it is essentially theft of property taking your car without permission that said I'm tempted to buy a clamp myself on the off chance someone clamps me if they are parked illegally to stop them fleeing the scene before the police arrive  I got a fine at uni, forgot to put my permit out (early morning and had recently gotten it). Was £40 but better than the £80 it would have been if I didn't pay promptly (no choice mind, as a uni can withhold graduation if you still owe them apparently). But the guy that gave the ticket was a decent guy, let me know another time when the car park was full that cars aren't ticketed if they have a permit and aren't in a space, as long as access to others wasn't impeded.... as he directed a mini onto a tow van that was blocking 3 disabled spaces 
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Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:11 am |
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belchingmatt
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I agree but the charges are far to high. Probably 15 years ago there was a bloke on some local news feel good article who removed the clamp without damaging it by taking apart the suspension and driveshaft. 
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Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:49 am |
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Linux_User
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+1. There needs to be a code of practice or a statutory limit on charges, and that goes for the release fee, any towing charges and any storage charges too.
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Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:12 am |
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