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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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snowyweston
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:28 pm Posts: 851 Location: EC1 Baby!
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One day I'll venture to Liverpool and take photos of Echo, afterall I did work on it, and no one will stop me. No one.
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timark_uk
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm Posts: 12143 Location: Belfast
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It's becoming less and less unusual to read these kinds of stories now. It's really infuriating that the police are seemingly ignorant to the law, and are openly flouting this ignorance without any fear of being reprimanded. Just recently a press photographer was taking shots outside the police cordon at a crime scene when approached by police and forced to delete images from the camera card she was using - despite the fact that a court order has to be obtained before any images can be deleted. The police are now apparently investigating the incident. It doesn't help instil confidence in the people that are supposed to be protecting us when they show disregard/ignorance of the law they are supposed to be upholding, does it?
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Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:18 am |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Cameron is looking for ways to make savings. Stop these sorts of incidents in the first place. Then they would not need to be investigated. A legal challenge will cost at least £30 000 so train the officers properly in the first place and if they make a decision that is clearly over stepping the mark then punish them. Demote them so that they have to spend a few more years at a lower pay grade just to get back to where they were. A few cases of that and you will see the law being applied properly.
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Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:48 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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It's a shame that people have to carry around a copy of section 44 to try to ensure they're not bullied by these jobs worths.
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Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:56 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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This is private security guards being idiotic, not police.
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Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:47 am |
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okenobi
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Private security guards are currently being given "police" powers. People in uniform as a whole (as an admittedly generalised group) - are the problem. Human beings are the answer. Asking someone in a uniform to think and not just use their power as THEY see fit, is like asking Isildur to give up the One Ring.
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veato
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:17 am Posts: 5550 Location: Nottingham
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Private security? I'd have told him quite cleary to get [LIFTED]. Then when the police came I'd tell them the same. Then where their super came if he/she still didnt take any notice of THE LAW I'd tell them to get [LIFTED] too. I'm stubborn like that. Especially when I know I'm not breaking any laws (well... apart from telling officers to get [LIFTED]!).
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Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:50 pm |
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rustybucket
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:10 pm Posts: 5836
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Memorise these magic words: "I'd like you to arrest me please"
Unless they're only security guards, in which case they can eat [LIFTED].
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Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:24 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:26 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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If they arrest you then they have to prove that you were a threat, and that would mean you could sue them for unlawful arrest.
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Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:32 pm |
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okenobi
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Yeah, but that's all bollocks frankly. You shouldn't have to get arrested to prove a point. Plus getting arrested is massively boring, takes ages and involves more bollocks than just getting it right in the first place.
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Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:44 pm |
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Amnesia10
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I do agree that if they used the powers sparingly it would not be an issue but they are not using it properly. They are using it for any purpose whatsoever. My point would have been that as a person who is not a terrorist to be arrested for acts that would clearly label me as a terrorist then I would feel compelled to sue to clear my name, If it cost the police £250 000 to restore my reputation then that is the price that they should pay.
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Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:09 pm |
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okenobi
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm Posts: 4932 Location: Sestriere, Piemonte, Italia
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Yeah, IF you get arrested. MY point is that it shouldn't come to that and it's best avoided if at all possible - regardless of the rights/wrongs/legality of the situation in question.
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Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:41 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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I agree that it should be avoided but lets not forget that people with power do trend to abuse it at times. The case of Walter Wolfgang being arrested under terrorism laws for heckling the Home Secretary was clearly wrong and the Home Secretary should have resigned for allowing this law to be misused.
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