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The perception of the network in the mobile phone buying process has always been that of the bad guy: always looking to get the most money out of customers while lying to their faces.

Who hasn't, when it comes to contract renewal time, chatted to a friend about it and been told 'tell 'em you're going to leave, that way you'll get more minutes/texts/free pets' and so on.

And to a degree, that still holds true; you can often shop around and get a better deal on a mobile phone contract, or at least persuade the uncaring guy in the call centre to give you a free case for your spangly new handset.

But with the advent of smartphones, networks now have to deal with a much scarier beast: software upgrades.

This means networks have to essentially re-release a handset multiple times during its lifetime - for free.

Why are we waiting?

And when there's a delay, the villain card is played once more: network bosses are obviously sitting around in ivory towers, playing chess with iPhone 4s while the minions tell the plebs that there's no stock.

Consumers need to realise that networks have to test firmware on their devices before releasing it for all, else it could feasibly not work on the phone correctly. Unlikely, but if it did all go blue screen then the fallout would be catastrophic, so waiting a couple of weeks isn't the worst thing in the world.

The HTC Desire has made this issue more prominent than ever before, as users are clamouring to know when their expensive handset will be made sleeker/faster/less battery hungry by it being updated to the Android 2.2 OS.

And Vodafone has caught the brunt of it with its latest update to the Desire - where customers thought they were getting the Android 2.2 update early, they were treated to a '360 update' which basically ransacked through a few settings and added a load of unwanted icons.

And lo, did the forums ignite with wrathful users DEMANDING that something be done. "VF! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?????" screamed one user with his nose firmly pressed on the Shift key.

Users don't want bloatware. We don't want crap on our phone like icons that offer services we will clearly never use. We have app stores now, so if we want sat-nav software, we'll jolly well go and get it.

And if we can't uninstall it, well, that's like putting our phone in a glass box and the networks deciding when and where we can use it. Not cool.

Forum shouting

So what happened? Vodafone actually did something, announcing that the new Android 2.2 update is imminent, and will roll back the changes made.

It's been called a massive backtrack: Vodafone has been forced to admit users don't want to have bloatware they didn't ask for.

But it's better to backtrack and appease consumers than to pretend everything is fine and anger people for two years while they run down a contract they entered into based on a certain promise.

We want an unlocked and unbranded phone, free of any tinkering whatsoever, each time we shell out hundreds of pounds for the latest handset on a two year deal, and 'smuggling' stuff onto our phones should never happen.

And while this smartphone utopia is still a while away, at least networks seem to be realising there's a bloatware line in the smartphone sand that can't be crossed.


http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and ... ead-709316

A few people were talking about such matters here the other day...

Personally, I could do without T-mobile's 'dun dun dun dun duh' every time I press the power button (you can't stop it or delete it, just attempt to replace it with something else, on my phone anyway) :evil:

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Err.. isn't this just saying 'I wish all smartphones were like the iPhone'?

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We want an unlocked and unbranded phone, free of any tinkering whatsoever, each time we shell out hundreds of pounds for the latest handset on a two year deal, and 'smuggling' stuff onto our phones should never happen.


You can buy unlocked iPhones in a lot of high streets or online if you like and wherever you get one from it'll contain no carrier branding whatsoever. Although you're never going to get an unlocked smartphone from any of the telcos, at least not out of the box - most of them will unlock it for free at the end of your contract though.

And as for the thread title, isn't there a difference between debranding because you think it's a good idea and debranding because your customers raise merry hell after you try to impose branding on them post facto?

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You can buy unlocked iPhones in a lot of high streets or online if you like and wherever you get one from it'll contain no carrier branding whatsoever. Although you're never going to get an unlocked smartphone from any of the telcos, at least not out of the box - most of them will unlock it for free at the end of your contract though.

Yes but that trade off is fine especially if they have cross subsidised the phone against the call package.

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This has been the case with all phones since the dawn of colour screens and phones with "apps".

My Sony Ericsson T610 had Orange branded menus and programs and options. Even an Orange branded start up and shutdown animation.

Similarly with other phones and networks. Not just smart phones.

In fact, I think my T68i had O2 branding.

Ever since I realised that there was another way, i.e. the way the manufacturer decided I have always gone for unbranded phones. In some cases I even removed the branding myself using PC software to install the original firmware onto the phone. (Did that with my K750i IIRC).

I would say the biggest grief with phones is the branding rather than the network locking (for me anyway).

Either way, it is not a new thing with smartphones.

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Sometimes I like the branding - it gives the phone extra character. Some of the Vodafone themes on my old Sony Ericsson were quite good IMO.

Of course, in other cases it's ghastly and slows the phone down something chronic. I have no problem with branding/bundled apps. provided they can be removed.

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Weird. None of the contract phones Vodafone have given me over the last ten years have had any branding on before.

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