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interesting blog
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Yes the iPad is truly revolutionary, but not in the way that Apple would like you to think.

Ultimately the iPad is not about providing the best web experience to end users, in fact quite the reverse... Apple is deliberately holding back its full potential to ensure that the next generation of rich internet apps and rich internet content are artificially tied to its own devices and routed through its App Store.

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interesting blog
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Yes the iPad is truly revolutionary, but not in the way that Apple would like you to think.

Ultimately the iPad is not about providing the best web experience to end users, in fact quite the reverse... Apple is deliberately holding back its full potential to ensure that the next generation of rich internet apps and rich internet content are artificially tied to its own devices and routed through its App Store.


In other words, they miss Flash. :roll:

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interesting blog
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Yes the iPad is truly revolutionary, but not in the way that Apple would like you to think.

Ultimately the iPad is not about providing the best web experience to end users, in fact quite the reverse... Apple is deliberately holding back its full potential to ensure that the next generation of rich internet apps and rich internet content are artificially tied to its own devices and routed through its App Store.


In other words, they miss Flash. :roll:


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Apple wants a non-negotiable 30% of every commercial transaction (revenue, not profit) in any way associated with its devices. And it wants it for ever with absolutely no possibility of competition.

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Apple wants a non-negotiable 30% of every commercial transaction (revenue, not profit) in any way associated with its devices. And it wants it for ever with absolutely no possibility of competition.


http://www.businessinsider.com/mac-app- ... sic-2011-2

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One might expect software developers to recoil from the notion of a single gatekeeper skimming 30 percent of their revenue, but the Mac App developers in the music category we canvassed for this story were unanimous in their praise for the Mac App Store. They credit the one-month-old Mac App Store with increasing their revenue by orders of magnitude in its first month of operation -- even after Apple takes its healthy cut.


Oh, look. Amazon takes 30% as well.

http://www.crn.com/news/components-peri ... *.ecappj02

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Amazon (NSDQ:AMZN)'s new royalty structure for Kindle e-reader books that will give authors and publishers up to 70 percent of royalties is a bold move for Amazon and Kindle that many observers suggest is long overdue.

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Apple wants a non-negotiable 30% of every commercial transaction (revenue, not profit) in any way associated with its devices. And it wants it for ever with absolutely no possibility of competition.


http://www.businessinsider.com/mac-app- ... sic-2011-2

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One might expect software developers to recoil from the notion of a single gatekeeper skimming 30 percent of their revenue, but the Mac App developers in the music category we canvassed for this story were unanimous in their praise for the Mac App Store. They credit the one-month-old Mac App Store with increasing their revenue by orders of magnitude in its first month of operation -- even after Apple takes its healthy cut.


Oh, look. Amazon takes 30% as well.

http://www.crn.com/news/components-peri ... *.ecappj02

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Amazon (NSDQ:AMZN)'s new royalty structure for Kindle e-reader books that will give authors and publishers up to 70 percent of royalties is a bold move for Amazon and Kindle that many observers suggest is long overdue.

At the moment you can get Mac Apps from somewhere else, if you do not want to sign up to the Macc App store, unlike the iOS App store. Though the question is for how long, would Apple take that approach for the Mac or would it be a step too far?
As for Amazon taking 30%, thats the follow the market leader apporach, though if you dont like that you can always go to another e-book shop and purchase from there.
As far as I am aware Amazon are not saying you can only put ebooks bought from amazon on the Kindle. Amazon are still allowing competition for content, Apple are doing there best to ensure there is no competition. Also Amazon are not saying that if you want to sell this content elsewhere you are not allowed to sell it at a reduced rate.

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As far as I am aware Amazon are not saying you can only put ebooks bought from amazon on the Kindle. Amazon are still allowing competition for content, Apple are doing there best to ensure there is no competition. Also Amazon are not saying that if you want to sell this content elsewhere you are not allowed to sell it at a reduced rate.


By the way, Amazon's cut is probably higher than 30%...

What competition is Apple trying to squash? I don't understand. If you mean preventing third parties from selling applications for the Mac OS/iOS anywhere other than through the App Store, then perhaps that's a worry if it actually happens.

Incidentally, the makers of Pixelmator made a million dollars in a very short space of time through sales on the App Store. They're definitely not complaining. :shock:

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is that 65000 apps that just have been resized for the iPads bigger screen or is that 65000 unique ipad only apps?


This subject was discussed on a podcast last night.

It seems that Honeycomb has the biggest problem in this regard.

Steve Jobs is prone to exageration

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A review of Google's Android Marketplace tablet offerings "featured for tablets" depicts just 50 apps, but as blogger Justin Williams notes, "most are upconverted and offer no significant advantages on a tablet other than a larger screen."

Looking only at apps that either require Android 3.0 or have a user interface "specifically designed for a tablet experience," Williams counted only 17.


This I know will change. However it will have to if the new Honeycomb tablets are to look attractive to consumers.

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Apple wants a non-negotiable 30% of every commercial transaction (revenue, not profit) in any way associated with its devices. And it wants it for ever with absolutely no possibility of competition.


http://www.businessinsider.com/mac-app- ... sic-2011-2

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One might expect software developers to recoil from the notion of a single gatekeeper skimming 30 percent of their revenue, but the Mac App developers in the music category we canvassed for this story were unanimous in their praise for the Mac App Store. They credit the one-month-old Mac App Store with increasing their revenue by orders

I read that businessinsider report and would imagine even a 30% take by Apple is less than the usual 50% take from a retailer. Then if you allow for the fact that a seller really has no extra overhead and certainly a lot less than operating your own web store I think that the economics for small developers are still very favourable. I would imagine for the developers who some are doing these in their spare time over several months an income of $100 000 per year from it is very good as a part time job.

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s an income of $100 000 per year from it is very good as a part time job.

Unless you're comparing it to a part time job of 'bank robbery' it's sodding brilliant.

It's interesting how the 30%70% has gone down in different markets. The mobile apps really had no great precedent so that was always going to ride. The music market have gone for it as it was really that or nothing at the time but now they're continually kicking up a fuss. The book market don't like it at all (and indie publishers have other alternatives) so the iBook store hasn't taken off to anything like the degree. On the OS X line, publishers feel they have to go with it but are quite often offering an alternative themselves, for example ' or you buy it from our web site' at the same price. It doesn't really seem to have been greeted enthusiastically by anybody, even though in some markets it is actually a better deal than the 'producers' were getting before.


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http://www.businessinsider.com/mac-app- ... sic-2011-2



I read that businessinsider report and would imagine even a 30% take by Apple is less than the usual 50% take from a retailer.

would imagine.. would like.. nope i'm gonna pick a totally unsubstantiated number from the ether to back a statement :roll:


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Then if you allow for the fact that a seller really has no extra overhead and certainly a lot less than operating your own web store I think that the economics for small developers are still very favourable. .
If your a very small developer or not that successful then allowing someone else to host and run the "store" then it could be favourable.

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I would imagine for the developers who some are doing these in their spare time over several months an income of $100 000 per year from it is very good as a part time job.
for those very lucky/skilled/jammy gits who can get this level its great.. well apart from the missing $42857.

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Retailers in some markets operate on my higher margins, for example clothing and furniture, others operate on much lower margins such as food. Pubs had a 50% gross margin, but much of those margins have been drained out to pay high rents, that is why they are closing. Margins differ depending on the industry.

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