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Natural way?

Apple can [LIFTED] off.

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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.


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Try swiping your finger over a scroll and see what happens.

Ouch! The curator just chopped my finger off... Won't be trying that again in a hurry! :lol:

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Natural way?

Apple can [LIFTED] off.

Its a "natural" way for touchscreen use. For traditional control its as natural as an honest politician.

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The only reason people find it weird is because it was arbitrarily decided years ago that when you scroll your finger down that everything on the screen moves up.

It makes sense for me that everything moves the way that you move it.

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The only reason people find it weird is because it was arbitrarily decided years ago that when you scroll your finger down that everything on the screen moves up.

It makes sense for me that everything moves the way that you move it.
you mean when you scroll your finger down you move down the page, consequently the page goes up. ;)

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Pull stick back, plane goes up.
i think you have a computer thats got added extra bits :lol:

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The only reason people find it weird is because it was arbitrarily decided years ago that when you scroll your finger down that everything on the screen moves up.

It makes sense for me that everything moves the way that you move it.
you mean when you scroll your finger down you move down the page, consequently the page goes up. ;)

Not going to bite ;)

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Can someone please explain what the hell Oli's on about?

Surely scrolling down and scrolling up is quite self-explanatory and doesn't require Apple to fiddle with it?


Apple changed the default scrolling behaviour of windows in OS X Lion to match the scrolling in iOS. If , for example, you want to scroll down in a document you have to swipe 'up' on the mouse/track pad just like you would do if you were doing it on an iPhone/iPod touch. You can change it back to the more standard PC way of doing things but the default is the iOS way of doing it. With one exception all Apples pointing devices are now touch sensitive so they are nudging people in the direction of doing stuff the iOS way even on the desktop.


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The only reason people find it weird is because it was arbitrarily decided years ago that when you scroll your finger down that everything on the screen moves up.

It makes sense for me that everything moves the way that you move it.


Yeah, but the iOS thing is the key. Scrolling a mouse wheel is entirely different to tactile movement of content on a screen. And scrolling a mouse wheel makes sense the original way. This is simply more Apple walled-gardeness and that's cool for those people who only use iProducts. For the vast majority of us who don't (for whatever reason) it just breeds confusion if you ask me.


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Pull stick back, plane goes up.

+1. I often invert the controls in games to a similar effect.

Apple can go kiss my hairy butt.

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I turned it off straight away, more so that I didn't get confused at work. Curiously though, I do sometimes finding myself using the "natural" way...


OK, I've turned it on at home and at work.

At home I've got a Magic Mouse, at work I've got my old Sun Microsystems mouse.
I find it might easier to use on the Sun mouse than the Magic mouse for some reason, probably something to do with the scroll wheel vs touch?


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Pull stick back, plane goes up.


Let us hope that Apple never make aircraft.

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Pull stick back, plane goes up.


Let us hope that Apple never make aircraft.

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I wandered into the Apple Store (well a reseller) in Leeds the other day and had a play on the iMacs. (drooooooool)

But anyway, it took me a while to realise that I was using the magic mouse with natural scrolling and had no problems at all.

I didn't even need to think about it, it just went the way I wanted.

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