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Football clubs face call to increase policing payments 
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As I understood it, large nightclubs do pay for police presence. I may have got that wrong though.

Either way - I'm happy for this tax to take affect immediately. I can't help but think our police could better serve the general populus if they weren't looking after "what if scenarios".


Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:01 pm
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Either way - I'm happy for this tax to take affect immediately. I can't help but think our police could better serve the general populus if they weren't looking after "what if scenarios".

As I say, aside from the notion that there's no legal basis for it, the main problem I have with it is that I think it's the thin end of the wedge for the creation of an at least partly privatised police force. If a lot of other people have been told they have to pay for the police to do their job for them and you didn't object to that, how can you complain when they ask the same of you?

As I'm sure it has become obvious over time in this place, I am in favour of us having public services. I'm in favour of us paying collectively for things we cannot really do without in society - medical help in emergencies, policing to keep us safe, support for the destitute, care for the elderly, libraries and schools for children... However the other side of that bargain is that those public services have to perform those functions for all, without favour or preference. A rich man should not be refused treatment by the NHS if he has an accident simply because he is wealthy enough to pay for private care. In the same way, the police should perform their duties with equal professionalism and courtesy for everyone, without attending to or ignoring some who may or may not have paid into some extra pot. Anything which breaks this bargain between the public services and the society they serve is fundamentally damaging to us as a society.

You may not agree with this philosophy, but I believe it sincerely.

Jon


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Anything which breaks this bargain between the public services and the society they serve is fundamentally damaging to us as a society.

You may not agree with this philosophy, but I believe it sincerely.
It's not that I don't agree, it's that I don't see how a private enterprise that imparts a massive burden on public services shouldn't be held to account for that expense. Football = NOT society. However many people may enjoy it.


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ProfessorF wrote:
Couldn't the footballers all have a whip round?
I gather they're all minted, and I'm certain they'd like to support the community that supports them.

The majority of footballers are dullards. Asking them to consider an issue of even minor complexity is like asking Mount Rushmore to do the lambada. There are any number of memoirs of managers contains stories of the futility of getting footballers get involved in the community in any sense more than doing the odd hospital visit. There are several exceptions, thank god - and it's a bizarre paradox that the players who are the most dislikable arses on the pitch are often the ones with the greatest sense of philanthropy off it - but in general getting a premiership footballer to think about anything that isn't either capable of 200 MPH or wearing a short skirt is a practical impossibility.

Jon

Deduct it from their pay without telling them. Start writing it into contracts from now on. They won't notice...


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