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People off sick for more than four weeks are to be offered advice to get them back to work more quickly under a scheme being set up by the government.

The Health and Work Service, which will cover England, Wales and Scotland, will offer non-compulsory medical assessments and treatment plans.

It will be run by the private sector and paid for by scrapping compensation to employers for statutory sick pay.

Ministers say employers will save money overall by having fewer staff off sick.

They said it may save companies up to £70m a year in reduced sickness pay and related costs.

The new scheme will not entail any change to existing laws.

At present, staff who are off work for more than four weeks are considered to be long-term sick and entitled to Statutory Sick Pay of almost £90 per week from their employers.

That will not change under the new arrangements - but the government wants the Health and Work Service to cut the number of people on long-term sick leave.

Under the scheme, employers or GPs will be able to refer employees for a work-focused occupational health assessment.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26105246

Does anyone honestly believe that'll be anything other than a major fcuk-up for all concerned?

People will feel pressurized into going, especially if their GP recommends it, and then it's liable to be used against them one way or another if it comes to a tribunal or a HR case. I suspect this is just the thin end of the wedge, and just look at how quickly they're trying to set it up despite all the recent cock-ups from Team IDS.

The first thing I'd say to my GP is there's no way you're giving out my medical details and history to a third party, and nip it in the bud there and then.

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What will they do about people with broken limbs? Most people who are off work from sickness really do not want to stay at home. Most of the time they need to simply rest and recuperate. There must be plenty of conditions that might stop people working for a month or so but would be transmissible to their work colleagues if they returned before well. Tell that to the workers of a modern day Typhoid Mary.

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several years ago i broke my leg after a crash on my motor bike (scooter)
i had a week off then went into my work place and arranged to work on the tills for several weeks
before returning to normal work duties

no long time sick, that would have bored the hell out of me ...

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several years ago i broke my leg after a crash on my motor bike (scooter)
i had a week off then went into my work place and arranged to work on the tills for several weeks
before returning to normal work duties

no long time sick, that would have bored the hell out of me ...


A broken limb is one this. What about people recovering from surgery? The pressure from one side to “get back to work” versus medical advice to stay at home and recover would not be helpful.

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As someone said on the radio today, 'It's ATOS for people on sick leave". I can see no great benefit to this for people who have jobs when they go sick and intend to go back. Four weeks? I was off longer than that after my car crash and I had no intention other than going back, why the heck should I bother with this or it have bothered with me?

I can see the value of it for people who have been off sick for a really long time but who have non-progressive conditions and who need some level of re-training or re-acclimatisation but four weeks is laughably too short a cut off and we know they won't get the retraining and help required, because the government will cry 'austerity' and won't fund it. What it will mean is unscrupulous employers will cut everyone who has anything more serious than a cold adrift with only statutory sickness pay to support themselves.

We hear often about how awful it is when one party or other is 'anti-business'. Why do we never hear when they're 'anti-employee'?


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As someone said on the radio today, 'It's ATOS for people on sick leave". I can see no great benefit to this for people who have jobs when they go sick and intend to go back. Four weeks? I was off longer than that after my car crash and I had no intention other than going back, why the heck should I bother with this or it have bothered with me?

I suspect it is another way to pass government funds to another private company.

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In 2002 I had mono and was laid up for three months. I should have stayed off longer, but I was going stir crazy.

I've had two ops on my heels. Both times I was off for over 4 weeks. The full recovery time is around 8 months or so.

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