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rustybucket
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Agreed However I find it depends on whether you would pronounce the genitive 's or not. My Northern brain wants to do the following: Michelle Francis’ tin of goodies Paul Binks’s tin of goodies Ines Rios’s tin of goodies Arron Wells’ tin of goodies Liz Morris’s tin of goodies Sally Voss’s tin of goodies Sally Travis’s tin of goodies Lorraine Hawes’ tin of goodies Rebecca Rolls’ tin of goodies Rebecca Jones’s tin of goodies _________________Jim
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TheFrenchun
Officially Mrs saspro
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It's interesting the lack of understanding of grammar rules in this country. Is it not taught at school?
And for people who say you don't need to comply with grammar rules, remember that language is a communication tool, rules are there so people can understand each other.
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rustybucket
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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It wasn't taught properly for about three decades up until the mid-noughties. I learned grammar rules in French. In a Grammar school. _________________Jim
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finlay666
Spends far too much time on here
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Both are correct http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_James%27_Parkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._James%27s_ParkBoth the park of St James, one however is St James' and the other is St James's _________________TwitterCharlie Brooker: Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centres for adults; computers for scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for people who earnestly believe in feng shui.
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leeds_manc
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Language is an instinct of the human species just as web spinning is an instinct of spiders. Therefore as long as you abide by the innate rules of language, in that verbs must appear in the correct place in the sentence etc, then you are perfectly understood. Yoda is a classic example of someone who "breaks" the rules of English, however, abides by the rules of innate human language, he does.
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oceanicitl
Official forum cat lady
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Not sure what you mean by this. I learnt grammar at school in the 70s. From what I'm seeing it's not being taught in schools now. What happened in nid-noughties? _________________Still the official cheeky one 
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TheFrenchun
Officially Mrs saspro
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I had English grammar rules drilled into me 3 times a week for 10 years and frequently score minus 100 % at French grammar test in primary.  I think I'm ok now lol
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Fogmeister
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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I always thought that "s apostrophe" was for plurals.
For names ending in s it's always "apostrophe s".
For instance.
St James's hospital.
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The dogs' kennel.
I.e. The kennel belonging to many dogs.
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ShockWaffle
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am
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me learn that in eighties
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big_D
What's a life?
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Location: Bramsche
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From the mir 70s on, grammar was taught in schools, but it wasn't as strictly marked, especially outside of English Language lessons. It was considered more important that pupils could get their ideas across, than that the text was grammatically correct. So people learnt grammar, but they weren't forced to use it in all subjects, so it didn't stick as well as it should have.
In Germany, you lose around 10% of your marks, if there are more than 2 or 3 grammatical errors on a page, regardless which subject it is.
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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