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JJW009

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Re: Should we be more trusting?


	Linux_User wrote: At least Vista supports wifi from the word go, where was wifi support in XP pre-SP2? As for UAC, it was to make up for the massive security liability that was Windows XP. They took a model of system security - Windows NT - and completely [LIFTED] it up. XP wasn't even reasonably secure until at least SP2.

I have SP3. It came out many moons ago, and there have been updates since.

Obviously, an OS which hasn't been patched for years and years and years is going to fail in some ways. I'm not comparing the original XP release from before half the people here were born - I'm talking about the up to date version with all the lovely goodies MS have given us for free.

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Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:46 pm

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Re: Should we be more trusting?

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	Linux_User wrote: At least Vista supports wifi from the word go, where was wifi support in XP pre-SP2? As for UAC, it was to make up for the massive security liability that was Windows XP. They took a model of system security - Windows NT - and completely [LIFTED] it up. XP wasn't even reasonably secure until at least SP2.

You mean the goodies that MS included to make up for how [LIFTED] it was in the beginning? MS broke the traditional meaning of the words "service pack".

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Re: Should we be more trusting?

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	big_D wrote: At least it was a darned sight better than XP...

Elaborate? What does Vista do for you where XP failed?

The Start menu, for a start! Hitting the windows key, typing "remo"+Enter to start Remoteverbindung, windows+"word"+enter etc. It start the apps much more quickly, no more searching through menu after menu or having to uncover the desktop.

It feels like a real OS, I think XP's biggest problem is that it either looks like Fisher Price or Windows 95, neither make it feel modern or inspire confidence.


	JJW009 wrote: One example of Vista being annoying - every time I connect to a new network, which I do several times a day, it asks me a bunch of questions which takes a minute to get rid of. I'm now on "network 9000" or there abouts. I don't want that - I just want to change my IP settings and keep my security exactly the way I set it up to start with.

I connect to about a dozen different networks on my laptop, I've never even seen what you are describing...


	JJW009 wrote: Another example; there are a few applications which Vista always says "Wooo there! This doesn't look safe to me." Now, fair enough the first time you run them - but surely there should be a simple tick box to say "I trust this app, now stop bugging me!"? Maybe there is, but it's not in front of my face and I've not had time to search for it.

Hmm, I click on the "don't warn me again" option on that dialog.


	JJW009 wrote: Then there's the performance. I had to upgrade the memory in my new laptop to 2GB to make it feel as barely adequate as my old one which only had 256MB.

I haven't bought a machine with less than 2GB since 2004, so it hasn't been a problem... In the office, we have a few machine still running XP SP3 in 512MB RAM, they are unbearably slow, especially if you try and open more than one app at once!

I had a C2D, 3GB Win XP at work, it was clocked higher than my iMac, but Vista ran quicker and more smoothly on the iMac! Same with the Core 2 Quad, same clock speed, ran Vista smoother than the C2D (okay, it had 2 more cores, but the general apps I used didn't really take advantage of them).


	JJW009 wrote: Generally speaking, the things I notice about Vista that separate it from XP are those things that get in the way of me doing my job. I worked more efficiently with XP. It was pretty much invisible, the way an OS should be. I don't want to think about my OS - I just want to get on with my work!

I'm the other way round, I find that it is the little improvements in Vista that allow me to work quicker and more efficiently... I pretty much skipped XP, I switched to Linux, because I hated XP, I switched back to Windows on my PC when Vista SP1 came out. It is just so much better than XP ever was, for the way I work.


	JJW009 wrote: My next new PC for general work will probably be W7 rather than OSX or Linux, but that's purely for security reasons. I can't keep running a vintage OS for ever.

I'll probably upgrade to Windows 7 on my Vista machine, OS X is already on Snow Leopard, it is noticeably faster!

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Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:15 pm

JJW009

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Re: Should we be more trusting?

If I get half an hour to spare, I'll do some screen shots. It sounds like your Vista is totally different to mine

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