I'm with you 100% on that one.

Why not have a word with big_D and see if the two of you can't work something out!



I agree entirely. By the way, I think C_W might want a word about a steering wheel for his car!

Wow! I feel just like Cilla Black! :etc:

you mean Cilla white

damn those fake names

FFS!
Just about to leave the office, when one of the staff stuck his head in to borrow some ethernet cable.
He's borrowing a MacBook, and doesn't think he's got wifi at home, so he'll need a cable, of course.
'So, mate, how do I set it up?'
'Plug that into the router, that into the computer, go to the system preferences, select network, tell it it's on ethernet. Beyond that, you're pretty much on your own because I don't know anything about your home setup. Ring the internet provider.'
'Ah but if it had wifi, it'd just go straight on? My wife's computer goes straight on. Actually, her's is plugged in on the cable and that goes straight on.'
'Well yours will need setting up. In fact it'll need setting up every time you turn it off, because of the Deep Freeze software they stick on it.'

Stands there blankly, as if he can't comprehend why I don't know the intricacies of his home internet arrangements.

He also seemed to think that his village didn't have wifi.

its all half truths, misheard conversations and pub bores. But by the same parameter people who don't know whats under the bonnet, still are allowed to drive. Gawd bless em.

So, you leave the office at 10am to do a site visit. Your car is spotted outside your house 20 minutes later and doesn't appear to move until you arrive back at the office, at 12:30; at which time you complain there aren't enough hours in the day and announce you're just nipping out for lunch!

You ******* tw@t.

I sell rarely on ebay and this is the second time someone hasnt bothered paying waste of my f***ing time

Friend just really annoyed me.

We've been talking about how he's finally going to get a Desktop PC for games and asked me to help to spec one out.

However, after he's come back from his second Holiday he's suddenly decided to bail since he now "realises he needs to start saving".

Now i'm all for maturity etc. and not so bothered about the reason, but more the fact that he knew about his financial situation before his second holiday and in comparison his second was less "needed" as it came only a week after his first.

Not to mention the amount of time wasted trying to fit a gaming specification around his budget oriented price.

Ugh.

I will never again apply for a job that i know has psychometric tests, they are a [LIFTED] complete joke.

A complete waste of the last week, I might has well have answered by flipping a coin, total quackery.

I don't reach the standard? of what? Tell me what you [LIFTED] want and I'll deliver it, tell me your office policy and I'll abide by it, but don't make me [LIFTED] guess when my answer could have been totally different if if a million different variables had existed which you didn't specify.

Unfortunetely that [LIFTED] is fashinable, and HR can look more like they earn their money by applying them to potential applicants.

I have to stand up for them a little. The basic point is that they are useless as job aptitude/selection tools, because that's not what they were designed to do. The vast majority of psychometric test were designed for use in a an experimental context, essentially to measure the same thing (whatever that thing may be) in lots of people in a standard, objective way, and then produce results be used in a statistical analysis to determine something about the population as a whole. They were never designed to tell you anything about an individual.

They're mostly used in a completely improper way, by people who in no way are qualified to use them properly - ask the BPS, they'll tell you you need at least a year of postgrad training after a psychology degree to really understand psychometric testing yet as a selection tool they're (with all due respect) being used by Sandra from HR who has some sort of vocation-related qualification that, if you're lucky, included a ten week psychology 'module' in which she covered everything from psychoanalysis to marketing.

To give someone a psychometric test as an aptitude test is no more useful than measuring the size of their feet. HR departments persist with them because they have a whiff of objectivity and 'science' about them which is ironic, because they're often used in a way akin to the way witchcraft used to be.

Bah. Hate the testers, not the tests.

Jon

I was told by the HR lady that made me redundant that it didn't matter if the tests were total bollocks or not. All that mattered was that they were measurable bollocks.

This is required by law to protect the company from being accused of prejudice. If selection is done primarily on interview, how can you prove that the white man got the job because "he was better" than the black woman and not because you "don't like their kind".

We'll that would be true, they do measure stuff. Not stuff that's at all useful in context, but you know, you get an abstract set of numbers out the back end. But it is rather like picking who gets the job on, I dunno, how far into the year their Birthday is.


Yeah.... that bit... that bit is total cobblers. Just giving a psych test wouldn't protect them from a case of discrimination if it came to it in any way at all. To put it simply, what would happen if the black woman had scored higher in the test? How would it protect them then? Plus it betrays an utter lack of comprehension of how most psych tests actually work. They don't have anything that approaches a 'higher' or 'lower' score anyway. What you tend to get is 'a particular value' (or more usually a set of values) but the fact that person A has a higher value on this bit than person B doesn't actually mean anything in terms of job skills. The whole point of the tests is you give them to hundreds of people and then you use sophisticated statistical analysis to look for trends and associations within that mass of data, which then tells you something about how people behave 'on average'. Comparing two people's numbers is no more indicative of anything than comparing what colour shirts they are wearing.

Psych tests in selection procedures are bollocks. Any excuse they claim to have that requires their use is bollocks. Any finding they get out the back end (unless they're interviewing hundreds of people) are bollocks. There are two wrong tools involved, the first is the psych test and the second is the person administering it.

Jon

Oh FFS! I can't do wrong for doing right. Blood and stomach pills!

How about I get to have the tantrum I want to have, eh? Except I won't be throwing clothes and shoes; I'll be lobbing furniture about. And if that doesn't work, I'll start on people. So I have to control myself. But not the women - noooooo.

Because they can't do as much damage - and their husbands are generally weeds - the women around me get to carry on acting like fr*gging howler monkeys. And, (excepting the lovely X404 ladies) almost every woman I know thinks they have an inalienable right to treat their menfolk like turd! I am getting sick to my hind teeth of the selfishness, tantrums, fits of rage and general histrionics!

So will everybody please CALM DOWN, GROW THE F*** UP AND STOP TAKING IT OUT ON ME!!

the above post makes me glad im single