Reply to topic  [ 308 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 ... 21  Next
Top Gear is back... 
Author Message
Doesn't have much of a life

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:23 pm
Posts: 638
Location: 3959 miles from the centre of the Earth - give or take a bit
Reply with quote
jonbwfc wrote:
pcernie wrote:
Last week when a transport plane went past at the exact same time May and the Subaru driver were racing the dirtbike bloke, I wondered was it CGI, because that would require some rather spectacular staging :o :?

I'm fairly certain that was a composite shot if not actually CGI. For one thing I can't imagine anyone letting them kick up that much dust & gravel that close to a runway when there were planes taking off; suck a load of that into your engine at takeoff and the consequences could be messy.

Jon


It was a genuine shot - the timing isn't that difficult. As for dust/gravel, the Hercules is designed for use on dirt/gravel airstrips. I've seen one land and once it deploys reverse pitch on the propellors, the entire rear end of the plane disappears in a cloud of dust.

_________________
i7 860 @ 3.5GHz, GTX275, 4GB DDR3


Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:58 am
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
Posts: 17040
Reply with quote
dogbert10 wrote:
jonbwfc wrote:
pcernie wrote:
Last week when a transport plane went past at the exact same time May and the Subaru driver were racing the dirtbike bloke, I wondered was it CGI, because that would require some rather spectacular staging :o :?

I'm fairly certain that was a composite shot if not actually CGI. For one thing I can't imagine anyone letting them kick up that much dust & gravel that close to a runway when there were planes taking off; suck a load of that into your engine at takeoff and the consequences could be messy.
Jon

It was a genuine shot - the timing isn't that difficult.

It's not difficult to fake either.

dogbert10 wrote:
As for dust/gravel, the Hercules is designed for use on dirt/gravel airstrips. I've seen one land and once it deploys reverse pitch on the propellors, the entire rear end of the plane disappears in a cloud of dust.

Fair enough like but the rear end of the plane is behind the engine intakes. And landing is a whole different proposition from taking off. And doing it on some dust strip in the scrub in Afghanistan because you have to is also a whole different proposition to doing it on a civilian airstrip in America that's only covered in dust cos some numpty in an Impreza was showing off for the cameras. There's a world of difference between 'acceptable' necessary risk in an operational situation and un-necessary risk in a civilian one.

Jon


Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:44 am
Profile
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:47 pm
Posts: 437
Location: Coalisland,N.Ireland
Reply with quote
jonbwfc wrote:
dogbert10 wrote:
It was a genuine shot - the timing isn't that difficult.

It's not difficult to fake either.

dogbert10 wrote:
As for dust/gravel, the Hercules is designed for use on dirt/gravel airstrips. I've seen one land and once it deploys reverse pitch on the propellors, the entire rear end of the plane disappears in a cloud of dust.

Fair enough like but the rear end of the plane is behind the engine intakes. And landing is a whole different proposition from taking off. And doing it on some dust strip in the scrub in Afghanistan because you have to is also a whole different proposition to doing it on a civilian airstrip in America that's only covered in dust cos some numpty in an Impreza was showing off for the cameras. There's a world of difference between 'acceptable' necessary risk in an operational situation and un-necessary risk in a civilian one.

Jon



I heard J.May on 5live the other day talking about this. He said that the RAF were there doing some training before flying to Afghanistan and it took 3 or 4 attempts to get the shot right. There is quite a distance between the vehicles & the Hercules and they do work in a lot of different environments so are up to the job.


yours wecrookie :shock:

_________________
Carpe Diem - Squeeze the day!


Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:52 am
Profile
Legend

Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm
Posts: 45931
Location: Belfast
Reply with quote
wecrookie wrote:
I heard J.May on 5live the other day talking about this. He said that the RAF were there doing some training before flying to Afghanistan and it took 3 or 4 attempts to get the shot right. There is quite a distance between the vehicles & the Hercules and they do work in a lot of different environments so are up to the job.


Thanks for that. It goes back to my other point though - I want it as real as possible (I understand they need linking shots etc), not blatant set-ups that wouldn't look out of place in a Michael Bay military-fest :(

_________________
Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/


Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:15 pm
Profile
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:47 pm
Posts: 437
Location: Coalisland,N.Ireland
Reply with quote
pcernie wrote:
wecrookie wrote:
I heard J.May on 5live the other day talking about this. He said that the RAF were there doing some training before flying to Afghanistan and it took 3 or 4 attempts to get the shot right. There is quite a distance between the vehicles & the Hercules and they do work in a lot of different environments so are up to the job.


Thanks for that. It goes back to my other point though - I want it as real as possible (I understand they need linking shots etc), not blatant set-ups that wouldn't look out of place in a Michael Bay military-fest :(



I now what you mean,but all they did was take advantage of the RAF while filming.The RAF were apparently talking off & landing all the time Top Gear just had a few a attempts at getting their timing right :roll: :lol: ;)



yours wecrookie :shock:

_________________
Carpe Diem - Squeeze the day!


Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:59 pm
Profile
Legend

Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm
Posts: 45931
Location: Belfast
Reply with quote
wecrookie wrote:
I now what you mean,but all they did was take advantage of the RAF while filming.The RAF were apparently talking off & landing all the time Top Gear just had a few a attempts at getting their timing right :roll: :lol: ;)


It seemed completely fake though, in the sense that a lot of people knew there was little chance of it happening just as May and driver did the jump, and that doesn't help when nearly everything feels staged on the show recently :(

I mean, even Hammond putting his seatbelt/harness thing on last night seemed contrived :?

_________________
Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/


Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:09 pm
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm
Posts: 12251
Reply with quote
Dunno about you lot, but the 4 seater Porsche just looked wrong.

_________________
All the best,
Paul
brataccas wrote:
your posts are just combo chains of funny win

I’m on Twitter, tweeting away... My Photos Random Avatar Explanation


Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:15 pm
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm
Posts: 12030
Reply with quote
Porsche get confused with anything that's not a 2 door.

_________________
www.alexsmall.co.uk

Charlie Brooker wrote:
Windows works for me. But I'd never recommend it to anybody else, ever.


Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:19 pm
Profile
Occasionally has a life
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:47 pm
Posts: 437
Location: Coalisland,N.Ireland
Reply with quote
ProfessorF wrote:
Porsche get confused with anything that's not a 2 door.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



yours wecrookie :shock:

_________________
Carpe Diem - Squeeze the day!


Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:22 pm
Profile
I haven't seen my friends in so long
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:17 am
Posts: 5550
Location: Nottingham
Reply with quote
pcernie wrote:

I mean, even Hammond putting his seatbelt/harness thing on last night seemed contrived :?


I think it is contrived. But its entertainment and I'm prepared to accept it as such. That way I can just sit back and enjoy (although Hammond is starting to get on my tits). I also think May is wasted in the show. He's much better on his other shows.

_________________
Twitter
Blog
flickr


Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:53 pm
Profile WWW
Legend

Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm
Posts: 45931
Location: Belfast
Reply with quote
veato wrote:
pcernie wrote:

I mean, even Hammond putting his seatbelt/harness thing on last night seemed contrived :?


I think it is contrived. But its entertainment and I'm prepared to accept it as such. That way I can just sit back and enjoy (although Hammond is starting to get on my tits). I also think May is wasted in the show. He's much better on his other shows.


The funny thing is, I'll accept the very expensive use of taxpayers money for blokes genuinely messing about in high-octane situations, but not when it's all staged ;)

_________________
Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/


Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:58 pm
Profile
What's a life?
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
Posts: 17040
Reply with quote
RE: this show's news..

I want something that's been made from Carbotanium. Obviously, a Zonda would be ideal but I wouldn't mind something smaller.

Jon


Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:30 pm
Profile
Moderator

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm
Posts: 7262
Location: Here, but not all there.
Reply with quote
I think I prefer Titbon.

I agree about Hammond getting annoying, and May being underused. While I enjoy the format, it might be getting a little tired and in need of a retread. There's only so much you can do mixing petrol, cars, squealing tyres and bullets.

_________________
My Flickr | Snaptophobic Bloggage
Heather Kay: modelling details that matter.
"Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.


Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:40 pm
Profile
Legend

Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm
Posts: 45931
Location: Belfast
Reply with quote
I think a lot of Hammond's annoyance factor has to do with that God-awful hair of his :shock:

_________________
Plain English advice on everything money, purchase and service related:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/


Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:47 pm
Profile
Moderator

Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm
Posts: 7262
Location: Here, but not all there.
Reply with quote
pcernie wrote:
I think a lot of Hammond's annoyance factor has to do with that God-awful hair of his :shock:


Kinda - let's not forget Captain Slow is no advert for hair care products, either. Nor Clarkson, for that matter!

It's more Hammond's over-eagerness. It really comes over as that faux chumminess beloved of local radio DJs. Hamster used to be one, and it still shows. When he's being serious, he's quite personable. It's when he tries to do the Clarkson-style hyperbole that it all goes wrong for me.

_________________
My Flickr | Snaptophobic Bloggage
Heather Kay: modelling details that matter.
"Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.


Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:51 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 308 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 ... 21  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software.